Another Mass Shooting in the Good Ol' USA

[Oerets]

They got there quickly. First it was four minutes, then 12 and even a half hour IIRC. He was back peddling so fast it was hard to keep up.

Then once there waited for reinforcements..... at least an hour.

[donquixote99]

The suggestion is that armed teachers are needed.

In the Dayton bar district shooting in 2019, in which 9 persons were killed, an officer was nearby and responded instantly, shooting the gunman dead 30 seconds after he opened fire. Alas, from a CNN story: "The Ohio gunman who ripped apart nine families in almost an instant managed to fire 41 shots in less than 30 seconds, police said Monday."

In other words, a trained good guy with a gun, responding about as rapidly as can be imagined, could not prevent mayhem. So more people with guns is likely not the solution. Other solutions, like not letting machines that can fire 41 rounds in 30 seconds be readily available, might be needed.

And I can't help thinking less shrieking propaganda that says we face existential threats from THEM might help. And a media diet less soaked in extreme violence? And maybe even some public mental health strategy to try to find and help vulnerable, bullied loners?

[Oerets]

Adding weapons to the problem will not fix this. By the time a shooter arrives, is active. It is to late.

Arming teacher, then next play grounds, stores, parking lots, even in your own living rooms shot by a passing car. If adding weapons were the answer, we would already be the safest country on the planet. Instead we are right next to Somalia in guns per person, at the top....

The problem is and will continue to be the easy access to high power high capacity cheap effective killing of human tools.

What does this say about the country? We are controlled by an industry that knows how to talk to the selfish. Convincing them that their love of the gun is all powerful. More powerful then the love for family. Hug the cold cold gun over a warm loved one....

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Adding weapons to the problem will not fix this. By the time a shooter arrives, is active. It is to late.

Arming teacher, then next play grounds, stores, parking lots, even in your own living rooms shot by a passing car. If adding weapons were the answer, we would already be the safest country on the planet. Instead we are right next to Somalia in guns per person, at the top....

The problem is and will continue to be the easy access to high power high capacity cheap effective killing of human tools.

What does this say about the country? We are controlled by an industry that knows how to talk to the selfish. Convincing them that their love of the gun is all powerful. More powerful then the love for family. Hug the cold cold gun over a warm loved one....

We have reached the point of no return. There is enough of the said guns out there that there is no effective way of preventing a determined person from getting possession.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

We have reached the point of no return. There is enough of the said guns out there that there is no effective way of preventing a determined person from getting possession.

There is a way, many. Go after the suppliers and retailers for one. Closing the gun show loop hole. Start putting up billboards of the victims much like was done for abortions.

The is no reason for high capacity mags. Body armor? Look at what was done to full auto weapons. Do the same for semi auto mag fed now.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

We have reached the point of no return. There is enough of the said guns out there that there is no effective way of preventing a determined person from getting possession.

But do we have to make it so damned easy? The TX shooter bought an assault rifle, returned for hundreds of rounds of ammo, then came back the next day for another assault rifle. The gun shop gladly took his money and thought nothing of it. In the wake of these incidents Repubs always cry that the Dems are politicizing the issue. Maybe if they offered any solutions to the problem they wouldn't get called out every time. Instead all they offer is thoughts and prayers. Oh right, now they offer fervent prayers. That's much better I guess. They cry "It's not a gun problem, it's a mental health problem". Still haven't seen any measures to address the so-called mental health problem either. Elsewhere on the web someone replied to me "What about all the gun violence in Democrat run cities?". I replied "Once we lock all them up, now what about the crazed White boys with high powered semi-auto weapons and high capacity mags intent on killing people they hate?". Haven't seen a reply as of yet.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

But do we have to make it so damned easy?

Definitely, no!

[RickeyM]

Let's arm the teachers and school personnel they say. That's the solution they say.

[Pio1980]

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[barbara]

A question about guns, and sorry if it sounds dumb, but I really don't know....

Watching the news yesterday, one of the commenters referenced another shooting (I think it was the Las Vegas one) where the shooter shot "100 rounds in ten seconds".

"Rounds"... does that mean bullets? He shot 100 bullets in ten seconds? Is that even possible for a gun to do?

Thanks in advance for helping me understand.