23 charged with terrorism in Atlanta ‘Cop City’ protest

[donquixote99]

Long think piece in The Atlantic says we're in for a long period of anarchic political violence. Generational long.Decivilization they call it. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...uary-6/673088/.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Long think piece in The Atlantic says we're in for a long period of anarchic political violence. Generational long.Decivilization they call it. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...uary-6/673088/.

There are many still fighting the Civil War or the one of Northern Aggression....

Sadly blood will be spilled, much sorrow before this is settled.
If ever!

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Oerets

There are many still fighting the Civil War or the one of Northern Aggression....

Sadly blood will be spilled, much sorrow before this is settled.
If ever!

The Atlantic writer doesn't expect another civil war. MTG aside, neither the masses nor the powers want to break up the country. Smaller more ad-hoc groups will go after their enemies, out of hate and/or seeking revenge. The current rash of mass shootings is a taste. We may never go back to being as reliably peaceful as we were.

[Oerets]

With the hints being dropped of things to come.
Such as in Georgia, https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/05/u...eys-trump.html
""The proposals are part of a broader push by conservative lawmakers around the country to rein in district attorneys whom they consider too liberal.""

Moving to control the courts, having already shown willing to cheat to win.

Little doubt they will push and push until the oppressed will lash out. Right now the oppressed just want justice, when it becomes retribution the real trouble starts.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by whell

More than 20 people from around the country faced domestic terrorism charges Monday after dozens in black masks attacked the site of a police training center under construction in a wooded area outside Atlanta where one protester was killed in January.

The site has become the flashpoint of ongoing conflict between authorities and left-leaning protesters who have been drawn together, joining forces to protest a variety of causes. Among them: People against the militarization of police; others who aim to protect the environment; and some who oppose corporations who they see as helping to fund the project through donations to a police foundation.

https://apnews.com/article/atlanta-p...f44283fc72fc56

Sad (for you) that no one here will defend them. I think, however, that a domestic terrorist group could scare up more than twenty-three people

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

More than 20 people from around the country faced domestic terrorism charges Monday after dozens in black masks attacked the site of a police training center under construction in a wooded area outside Atlanta where one protester was killed in January.

The site has become the flashpoint of ongoing conflict between authorities and left-leaning protesters who have been drawn together, joining forces to protest a variety of causes. Among them: People against the militarization of police; others who aim to protect the environment; and some who oppose corporations who they see as helping to fund the project through donations to a police foundation.

https://apnews.com/article/atlanta-p...f44283fc72fc56

An interesting aspect of this is that while there is a state law against "domestic terrorism" in Georgia, there is no such federal law because of opposition to it by Congressional Republicans, largely because the vast majority of incidents that would qualify as domestic terrorism are perpetrated by the GOP base (e.g., Jan. 6). Moreover, Congressional Republicans went ballistic after a 2009 DHS report (correctly) identified the threat of right-wing extremism.

Meanwhile, just last night Tucker Carlson spent his show again trying to portray the Jan. 6 insurrection (in which over 1,000 people have been arrested) as peaceful and supported by the Capitol Police.

What this teaches us is that conservatives believe that criminal activity is domestic terrorism if it involves liberal causes, but it's normal, patriotic tourist activity if perpetrated by Republicans and investigation thereof is treasonous.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Meanwhile, just last night Tucker Carlson spent his show again trying to portray the Jan. 6 insurrection (in which over 1,000 people have been arrested) as peaceful and supported by the Capitol Police.

What this teaches us is that conservatives believe that criminal activity is domestic terrorism if it involves liberal causes, but it's normal, patriotic tourist activity if perpetrated by Republicans and investigation thereof is treasonous.

Let me guess: you didn't actually watch Carlson's report. (If you didn't, you're not alone. I didn't see it either). You just read what someone else said about it. Is that right?

I know you would probably have some retort like: "I wouldn't piss on Carlson if he was on fire, much less watch his show or anything on Fox News."

While I didn't watch his show, the video elements are available to view. There is a compelling counter-story to be considered. It is even possible to consider it if you're willing to:

- drop the preconception and Dem/media narrative that Jan 6th was an "insurrection". I know, that's a lot to ask of this group.
- assume that neither the Dems nor Repubs are going to provide the objective facts of what actually occurred on Jan 6th. Both will try to shape the narrative about that day for their own purposes.
- No question, folks who entered the Capital building that day should not have been there. However, when the protesters did enter the building, why were there Capitol Police shown on video waving them forward into the building?
- If it was an insurrection, then why did the vast majority of individuals who entered the Capital armed with nothing more dangerous than a cell phone?
- Why are the Capital Police seen escorting protestors around the building - particularly the bull horn hat guy - and not restraining, detaining or arresting them?

I don't know the answers to all of these questions. They do, however, run counter to the narratives that we've heard and seen for 2 years. The additional video provides some interesting context not present in the video clips we've seen ad nauseum since Jan 6th 2020.

[RickeyM]

Of course the FAUX/tRump faithful refuse to watch real journalism so they'll believe Fucker Carlson's propaganda (lies) hook line and sinker.

[donquixote99]

^^^ bam!

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Nice try Bobby. Keep it up. You just might find a squirrel, you blind nut.

Watching you criticize anyone for whataboutism is like watching Trump criticizing others for lying. Whataboutism and projection are your (and other conservatives) two most frequently used debate techniques. Without them, you are effectively rendered speechless.