The Silence Of The Lambs

[d-ray657]

If Dave worked in a unionized plant, he would likely be earning more than he does now, particularly because he is a skilled worker. I can't speak for him, but I would imagine that he would appreciate working under a union contract.

Regards,

D-Ray

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

I believe that you have earned everything that you have Dave, prefaced by the fact that I only know what you have posted here.

And if the Union did not extort or tax you to work where you work, you would have had more of money that you have worked so hard for.

I don't belong to a union, Bill. I also live in a "Right to Work" state. And, I can tell you this; The few union jobs left in the work I do, pay nearly $10 an hour more. Even if they're paying a hundred bucks a week in dues, they are still coming out way ahead of me.

But, great paying jobs like that just have to go, because guys like you feel that nobody (outside of management) deserves that kind of pay.......Am I Right?

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Right the company would pay you well out of the goodness of its soul.

I keep searching for that....It's getting harder and harder to find, by the day.

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

If Dave worked in a unionized plant, he would likely be earning more than he does now, particularly because he is a skilled worker. I can't speak for him, but I would imagine that he would appreciate working under a union contract.

Regards,

D-Ray

He would likely be earning more, just as he likely may be earning less. Unions can not do anything more than negotiate with management for the pay and benefits of the employees. He may actually be making less, considering the union fees for representing him.

By the way Mr. D-Ray, do you belong to a union ???

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

If Dave worked in a unionized plant, he would likely be earning more than he does now, particularly because he is a skilled worker. I can't speak for him, but I would imagine that he would appreciate working under a union contract.

Regards,

D-Ray

I once worked a union job (In a different field.) that actually paid less but the saw the benefit in membership immediately, when the employer tried to block me from using my health insurance.....for open heart surgery. To keep a long story short, one visit to the union hall rectified that situation.

I would have had a little difficulty paying $65,000 worth of medical bills on $9 an hour. (1989). Especially when, during the process, I was told by management that "If you have heart problems, you can't work here anymore.". I worked there for 3 years after that incident......with a bullseye on my back.

So, Bill, don't hand me any of your usual "kindly employer" BS. I don't buy it. If such a thing does exist, I have as yet to find it.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

He would likely be earning more, just as he likely may be earning less. Unions can not do anything more than negotiate with management for the pay and benefits of the employees. He may actually be making less, considering the union fees for representing him.

By the way Mr. D-Ray, do you belong to a union ???

Do you read the posts you respond to?

[d-ray657]

During college I was proudly a member of International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. Currently I am a member of the Lawyers Coordinating Committee, affiliated with the AFL-CIO.

Regards,

D-Ray

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I don't belong to a union, Bill. I also live in a "Right to Work" state. And, I can tell you this; The few union jobs left in the work I do, pay nearly $10 an hour more. Even if they're paying a hundred bucks a week in dues, they are still coming out way ahead of me.

But, great paying jobs like that just have to go, because guys like you feel that nobody (outside of management) deserves that kind of pay.......Am I Right?

Dave

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

He would likely be earning more, just as he likely may be earning less. Unions can not do anything more than negotiate with management for the pay and benefits of the employees. He may actually be making less, considering the union fees for representing him.

By the way Mr. D-Ray, do you belong to a union ???

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I once worked a union job (In a different field.) that actually paid less but the saw the benefit in membership immediately, when the employer tried to block me from using my health insurance.....for open heart surgery. To keep a long story short, one visit to the union hall rectified that situation.

I would have had a little difficulty paying $65,000 worth of medical bills on $9 an hour. (1989). Especially when, during the process, I was told by management that "If you have heart problems, you can't work here anymore.". I worked there for 3 years after that incident......with a bullseye on my back.

So, Bill, don't hand me any of your usual "kindly employer" BS. I don't buy it. If such a thing does exist, I have as yet to find it.

Dave

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Do you read the posts you respond to?

Well?????

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

During college I was proudly a member of International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. Currently I am a member of the Lawyers Coordinating Committee, affiliated with the AFL-CIO.

Regards,

D-Ray

Yes D-Ray,

But are you a dues paying, card caring member ???

[Boreas]

[QUOTE=d-ray657;110416Currently I am a member of the Lawyers Coordinating Committee, affiliated with the AFL-CIO.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Yes D-Ray,

But are you a dues paying, card caring member ???

You can't be a member unless you pay your dues, Willy.

John