Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

That makes you utterly certain I'm wrong about... what exactly?

There were two explicit assertions in my post.

First, I asserted that the killing of Brown, as I believe it probably went down, was not justice. The grand jury finding, taken at face value, says it was not provably illegal. But I've been assured repeatedly here that 'legal' has nothing to do with justice. Does that apply only one way, then?

Second, I asserted that people's attitudes toward 'punks' leads us not to care about 'street justice' being applied to them. The grand jury finding hardly makes my assessment of how people feel true or false....

So I don't see that the grand jury finding is a good basis for you to be certain I am wrong. Care to try again?

Ah but DQ we are a nation of laws, nowt was said about justice.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by merrylander

If I was the boy's father there would not have been enough left of him to charge you can do a bitching lot of damage with a chainsaw or a gallon of gas.

And were I the officer, because of this, I would have wound up shooting a Dad, too.

You do see the problem, right? It's NOT the officer...

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Connotations of terms matter. Alleged is quite different from convicted. And by the way, we weren't talking about a person who allegedly shot a lot of people.....

No we're talking assaulted a police officer.

[ZeroJunk]

I think it is likely that if the officer had not done what he did he would have been beaten to death or close to it, or murdered with his own weapon.

The responsibility for this is more on the parents than anybody else although kids are exposed to so much these days I don't know that they can be held totally responsible.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I think it is likely that if the officer had not done what he did he would have been beaten to death or close to it, or murdered with his own weapon.

Right, he chased after Brown for 100-150 feet with his gun drawn in order to keep Brown from beating him to death.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by merrylander

If I was the boy's father there would not have been enough left of him to charge you can do a bitching lot of damage with a chainsaw or a gallon of gas.

Disciplining a 13 year old with a chainsaw and a gallon of gas seems like it might be a little over the top.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Right, he chased after Brown for 100-150 feet with his gun drawn in order to keep Brown from beating him to death.

Yeah..........

Dave

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yeah..........

Dave

We had a guy like this kill a cop, flee, and barricade himself in an apartment with the occupants as hostages, you OK with that? Apparently officer Wilson wasn't.

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[Pio1980]

Mebbe the best way to honor Big Mike Brown's memory is to assault a convenience store clerk, walk out with some free merch, and punch a cop in the face. Afterward loot some stores and set them afire, yep, that's it.

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[icenine]

Finnbow is right about perhaps not calling a grand jury, but I would posit that we would disagree on why. In this case, no matter what happened, McCulloch applied a different standard to a white person by not trying to indict him, e.g. letting the grand jury fend for themselves without directing them toward charges. Something he probably never has done before. He should never have called it and taken the heat. Now he has poisoned this thing forever, and the stink is only going to get worse. This is not over.

The grand jury process was a sham in the eyes of most of his community, and he is the one responsible for that perception, which is more important than truth as we all know. Even if McCulloch believed what he was doing was right, he should have known better than to do it that way. He should have recused himself or not called the grand jury and let Wilson walk three months ago. Nixon screwed up by not asking for an independent prosecutor.

Plus the evidence dump is raising more questions than answers.