The Heartland Institute

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute

'Years of Living Dangerously' took a look at this climate change denier group in their latest installment.

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Here's the website http://yearsoflivingdangerously.com/ if you don't get ShowTime. Well worth a look see.

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Here's the website http://yearsoflivingdangerously.com/ if you don't get ShowTime. Well worth a look see.

Just watched an episode. Good stuff. Well, at least good cinematography. The news was not so good.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Just watched an episode. Good stuff. Well, at least good cinematography. The news was not so good.

It looks like big money has bought out the government regulators re methane.


I remember several years ago calling out the firemen for a particular manhole here in
Brooklyn.

Can do some damage if the manhole blows.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

It looks like big money has bought out the government regulators re methane.

It's even worse than that, the EPA takes the data from the petro industry to write their reports. Starved of funds until they can drown them in a toilet full of Halliburton's fracking fluid.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Just watched an episode. Good stuff. Well, at least good cinematography. The news was not so good.

Not good at all but if anyone listens to this lawyer J. Taylor, who is masquerading as a climate scientist, they'll tell you that global warming is beneficial to humans.

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Not good at all but if anyone listens to this lawyer J. Taylor, who is masquerading as a climate scientist, they'll tell you that global warming is beneficial to humans.

It looks like he has a climatology degree so it's tough to beat him on his own turf. I glanced at his web page and it looks like I could agree with him on some stuff. For example he appears to be against printing money.

When it comes to printing money for the sake of unprincipled growth I could agree with him. So could Lewis Black on the left. To borrow his sarcasm, we simply don't need another big effing thing, and big effing thing spa to go with it, etc etc.

I come at the climate change argument from a different angle. Would people rather hang out in a grassy area or would they rather hang out in an asphalt parking lot hot enough to sweat their body parts together? When it comes to things that humans are in control of then I vote for the first option.

There seems to be middle ground to be had. It just needs to be couched in terms that can be felt. Like sweaty underwear.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by ebacon

It looks like he has a climatology degree so it's tough to beat him on his own turf. I glanced at his web page and it looks like I could agree with him on some stuff. For example he appears to be against printing money.

When it comes to printing money for the sake of unprincipled growth I could agree with him. So could Lewis Black on the left. To borrow his sarcasm, we simply don't need another big effing thing, and big effing thing spa to go with it, etc etc.

I come at the climate change argument from a different angle. Would people rather hang out in a grassy area or would they rather hang out in an asphalt parking lot hot enough to sweat their body parts together? When it comes to things that humans are in control of then I vote for the first option.

There seems to be middle ground to be had. It just needs to be couched in terms that can be felt. Like sweaty underwear.

What is the difference between printing money or creating any other type of currency? I mean you can print it, stamp it out of metal, use shiny pebbles or whatever. I really don't see the difference. Precious metals? Is there really enough to go around? Or will we have to grossly inflate the value of the coin causing rapid deflation? A new car would now cost $12, but you'd still have to work for two years to raise the funds? I know that's a gross exaggeration, but that's how I see it.

Look at it this way; People wax nostalgic about prices being so much lower way back when. Heck, I remember going out to see a movie in the early eighties for $3. It's $9, now. But, I also made $3.50 an hour then. I make almost $30 an hour now. So, realistically: Why should I give a shit? In that example, I'm actually ahead of the game.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Not good at all but if anyone listens to this lawyer J. Taylor, who is masquerading as a climate scientist, they'll tell you that global warming is beneficial to humans.

I heard someone joke about it just yesterday;

"Ohio will soon be a great place to invest in oceanfront property."

Dave

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by bobabode

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute

'Years of Living Dangerously' took a look at this climate change denier group in their latest installment.

Saw the METHANE section last night on Showtime.

Heartland is well funded ;it is becoming more difficult to identify its sponsors.