Putin Invades the Ukraine

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

From the start of the conflict everyday the Russians are running out of something.

Indeed, from Generals to soldiers to ammo to drones. Now they’re forced to buy drones from Iran and ammo from N Korea while their soldiers are being killed in droves or refusing to fight. Theirs is a Potemkin army. They've gone from being viewed as the second best army in the world to now being viewed as the second best army in Ukraine.

[Dondilion]

More nonesense. You buy ammo and equipment from wherever. The ammo for example makes a lot of sense.

A Ptemkin army would have wilted in a month.

Just read the headlines from say Newsweek and it's all glorious for Ukraine. Now and then a msm peeps through the curtain.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

More nonesense. You buy ammo and equipment from wherever. The ammo for example makes a lot of sense.

A Ptemkin army would have wilted in a month.

Just read the headlines from say Newsweek and it's all glorious for Ukraine. Now and a msm peeps through the curtain.

The presumed second best army in the world shot its wad in less than six months, and is now reeling and has come close to exhausting its domestic supply of munitions and drones when fighting a second-tier military power. Imagine the drubbing they'd suffer against NATO.

With regard to its primary objective (Kiev), Russia did indeed wilt in a matter of days as they are now doing now when faced with a Ukrainian counter-offensive.

Your beloved Putin, the master strategist and exemplar of Russian virtue, is taking an awful beating. Not only is his army a Potemkin army, his industrial base is too.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

This was done to placate Ukraine's sponsors especially those facing elections. The signs of unease from the citizens were appearing.

Naturally. It could not possibly be important to Ukraine to try to win a war that is being fought by their army on their territory. The destruction and mayhem being inflicted upon them simply pales in comparison to the political interests of foreign allies.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The presumed second best army in the world shot its wad in less than six months, and is now reeling and has come close to exhausting its domestic supply of munitions and drones when fighting a second-tier military power. Imagine the drubbing they'd suffer against NATO.

With regard to its primary objective (Kiev), Russia did indeed wilt in a matter of days as they are now doing now when faced with a Ukrainian counter-offensive.

Your beloved Putin, the master strategist and exemplar of Russian virtue, is taking an awful beating. Not only is his army a Potemkin army, his industrial base is too.

What counter offensive?

The one in Kherson, which chewed up the Ukrainians in a more strategically important area.

The offensive in Kharhive is against mainly militia forces not regular Russian forces and is designed for optics and headlines especially since Europe is unraveling and tax payers in the US want to see something for their money.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Naturally. It could not possibly be important to Ukraine to try to win a war that is being fought by their army on their territory. The destruction and mayhem being inflicted upon them simply pales in comparison to the political interests of foreign allies.

It could be possible.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

What counter offensive?

The one in Kherson, which chewed up the Ukrainians in a more strategically important area.

The offensive in Kharhive is against mainly militia forces not regular Russian forces and is designed for optics and headlines especially since Europe is unraveling and tax payers in the US want to see something for their money.

You really shouldn't get your news from RT, comrade. The attack on Kherson was well-publicized to draw experienced troops away from Kharkiv to defend Kherson. Now Russia's Kharkiv front has collapsed and even the better-defended Kherson front is about to as well. It's called tactics, comrade, something the Russian army doesn't understand. The Ukrainian army took back in several days what it took the Russians months to capture. The might Russian Army is a fucking laughingstock.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You really shouldn't get your news from RT, comrade. The attack on Kherson was well-publicized to draw experienced troops away from Kharkiv to defend Kherson. Now Russia's Kharkiv front has collapsed and even the better-defended Kherson front is about to as well. It's called tactics, comrade, something the Russian army doesn't understand. The Ukrainian army took back in several days what it took the Russians months to capture. The might Russian Army is a fucking laughingstock.

More nonesense. More spin after Kherson failure.

Find out the cost to Ukraine in men and material at Kherson.

Kherson is to prevent Ukraine from eventually becoming landlocked.

Zelensky is not listening to his commander in chief Zalushnyi.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

More nonesense. More spin after Kherson failure.

Find out the cost to Ukraine in men and material at Kherson.

Kherson is to prevent Ukraine from eventually becoming landlocked.

Zelensky is not listening to his commander in chief Zalushnyi.

Damn. It seems like it's really tough on you admitting that your beloved Mother Russia is a murderous kleptocracy with a hollowed-out industrial base and a Potemkin army. Even Putin's Chechen fanboy Ramzan Kadyrov recognizes what you seem unwilling to recognize.
"If today or tomorrow changes are not made in the conduct of the special military operation, I will be forced to go to the country's leadership to explain to them the situation on the ground"

You've turned into this board's Baghdad Bob. Congrats.

[Dondilion]

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