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Old 08-25-2012, 12:46 PM
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I'd only go to that movie if it were free and the theater provided unlimited bong hits to help me get through it. Under those conditions, along with a liter of single malt in tow, it could be entertaining. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to drop trou and take a dump on the stage during the opening credits.

Going to something like that is deliberately and voluntarily exposing yourself to propaganda, akin to reading Mein Kampf (though Mein Kampf certainly has more historical significance than this pap). If that's your bag, go for it.
Say it isn't so, Pat. Only Michael Moore spreads propaganda, Sean Hannity tells the truth.(Hoo, BOY!)

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Old 08-25-2012, 02:01 PM
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I'd only go to that movie if it were free and the theater provided unlimited bong hits to help me get through it. Under those conditions, along with a liter of single malt in tow, it could be entertaining. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to drop trou and take a dump on the stage during the opening credits.

Going to something like that is deliberately and voluntarily exposing yourself to propaganda, akin to reading Mein Kampf (though Mein Kampf certainly has more historical significance than this pap). If that's your bag, go for it.
That right there is funny.

With regard to Mein Kampf, I read it out of curiosity. Then I read Ayn Rand/Alan Greenspan's Capitalism:The Unknown Ideal. On its face it is more mean than Mein Kampf.

This stuff can be difficult to comprehend. It's no wonder that people get sucked into becoming tools for extremists.

Here's an example. When I read Capitalism:The Unknown Ideal I did it with a Tea Partier. We then debated it online. At the very end he said that he understood my perspective but preferred Ayn Rand/Alan Greenspan's. His logic?

"It has fangs! "

I shit you not.
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:01 PM
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Citizens United is a head without a body, in effect it has a main office but few if any "citizen" members, probably run by the Koch brothers or Tom Donohue and the Chamberpot of Commerce.
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:26 PM
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That right there is funny.

With regard to Mein Kampf, I read it out of curiosity. Then I read Ayn Rand/Alan Greenspan's Capitalism:The Unknown Ideal. On its face it is more mean than Mein Kampf.

This stuff can be difficult to comprehend. It's no wonder that people get sucked into becoming tools for extremists.

Here's an example. When I read Capitalism:The Unknown Ideal I did it with a Tea Partier. We then debated it online. At the very end he said that he understood my perspective but preferred Ayn Rand/Alan Greenspan's. His logic?

"It has fangs! "

I shit you not.
I read Mein Kampf in the original German while living in Augsburg, a stone's throw from Landsberg am Lech where he was imprisoned while writing it. I just drove by that prison (still a Bavarian state prison) again last summer on our way down to Oberammergau and Garmisch from Augsburg. FWIW, the Bavarian gov't. still holds the rights to Mein Kampf and is talking of printing again for the first time since 1945 to demystify it. I got my copy for $.25 at the US Army Thrift Shop in Augsburg.
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:07 PM
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That right there is funny.

With regard to Mein Kampf, I read it out of curiosity. Then I read Ayn Rand/Alan Greenspan's Capitalism:The Unknown Ideal. On its face it is more mean than Mein Kampf.

This stuff can be difficult to comprehend. It's no wonder that people get sucked into becoming tools for extremists.

Here's an example. When I read Capitalism:The Unknown Ideal I did it with a Tea Partier. We then debated it online. At the very end he said that he understood my perspective but preferred Ayn Rand/Alan Greenspan's. His logic?

"It has fangs! "

I shit you not.
I had a converstion with a coworker recently about the reduction in starting pay for new hires (~$2 per hour.).

He said,

"So what? The f***ers aren't worth it anyways. Nobody is. $15 an hour, shit, $13 an hour to run a machine? That's bullshit?"

"And, paying you $26 an hour to stand here with your hands in your pockets and watch them work IS worth it?"

"That's different."

"Why? Because it's YOU?"

At that, he turned and walked away.

BTW, I make the same money he does.
And, I happen to think we're both worth it.
I also think if the company has been paying the operators at the
previous level and still turning a healthy profit that they had no excuse for that.

But. That's me. I'm not the mean bastard who just loves to watch others get cut down.

He is.

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Old 08-25-2012, 08:15 PM
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Just got back from a packed theater, never saw a standing ovation in one before. Very sobering to say the least. I can honestly say, it all makes sense now. This is stuff from the original sources that you haven't seen on the news (either side). Very enlightening, I can actually empathize with Obama now.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:23 PM
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Did you cry?
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Damn. That sounds about as fun as a Tea Party rally. Oops, I forgot. A showing of that movie is a Tea Party rally.
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Damn. That sounds about as fun as a Tea Party rally. Oops, I forgot. A showing of that movie is a Tea Party rally.
Yep. Those were my thoughts too.

By the way, Jay.

I'm "anti-Colonial" too. Imperialism is just another form of invasive tyranny and why half of the world resents us, (And the British.).

Does that shock you?

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Old 08-25-2012, 08:56 PM
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Did you cry?
I only cry for dogs, humans aren't worthy of my tears. This is so typical for you guys, commenting on, and even passing judgement on something you've never seen. Sort of explains how Obama got into the white house.
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