Religion has had it's time.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Surfers act like Pauly Shore, environmentalists are Leftys, Permaculture is a hippie thing, if you're against the war in the M.E., you must be a Lefty, if you don't hunt/kill animals, you're a Lefty, punk rock is for Leftys ...

Hell, I must be a Liberal x 2

Wait'll you get a load of the secret lefty handshake DJ.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

So, I've been married to the same woman for 34 years, raised two kids (made them do their homework and follow the rules), live in the suburbs, have two cars, work full time, and go to church on Sundays. I must be conservative.

Regards,

D-Ray

You're doing a HORRIBLE job of living up to the Liberal stereotype, Don. Limbaugh and his minions would be SO disappointed.....

I just thought you should know that.

Dave

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

live in the suburbs,

Regards,

D-Ray

Kansas is nothing but one big & flat suburb.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Wait'll you get a load of the secret lefty handshake DJ.

Oh God No! Not even with gloves on.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Kansas is nothing but one big & flat suburb.

Oh yeah, I should have mentioned that I live in one of the reddest of the red states, and I grew up in the other one.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Ah well it was pretty good while it lasted.

[piece-itpete]

For those who say religion is all the same, look to the fruits - the cultures they birthed. Various civilizations are incredibly different.

Pet

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

For those who say religion is all the same, look to the fruits - the cultures they birthed. Various civilizations are incredibly different.

Pet

I think you're wanting us to think about the Ay-rabbs. Okay.

Prior to the Crusades and then, later, the Reconquista, Islamic culture was among the most vibrant, advanced and tolerant in the world. Frankly, it was Christians fucking with them and (predominantly Christian) European powers subjugating anf colonizing them that made them go retrograde.

John

[piece-itpete]

No, look at all cultures.

If the caliphates were so tolerant and advanced, what happened to the Christian church in the ME after they came to power?

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

No, look at all cultures.

If the caliphates were so tolerant and advanced, what happened to the Christian church in the ME after they came to power?

Pete

In some places nothing happened. Think of the Christian communities that existed and still exist in the Holy Land and the Copts in Egypt. Then there were the thriving Christian and Jewish communities in Iran, right up to the Islamic Revolution and likewise in Iraq until Bush fucked up the whole world.

But the point is that Christian churches were a symbol and physical manifestation to the Arabs of the brutal conquest by the Crusaders. And don't forget that, at the same time Arabs in some places were persecuting local Christians, the Europeans were busy entertaining themselves with the Inquisition, butchering and burning "heretics" of all stripes, including Muslims and Jews.

John