Suicide Bomber Auction In Syria

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I would say that this is a demonstration about why it is essential that we have civilian command over the military, but I really don't think that is a view espoused by a majority of military professionals. I have read interviews and articles by several high ranking military officers that refute the "no holds barred" mentality.

Regards,

D-Ray

Well then give them uniforms and send them into combat, and let them command. And when the medics pick them up and clean the shit from their pants, send them back to the front to lead ! I would love to see the civilian command the military, from the front !

And I would have to agree with you, that several high ranking politically motivated military officers, that have never been in combat, would refute the :no holds barred mentality, in order to be promoted by the civilian command.

War should be the most horrible experience imaginable. That way everyone will think twice before engaging in one. And ounce they do engage in a war, keep the week willed and week minded out of the way, and let the military win the war..

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Yes I have my dear Finn,

They are the crimes committed by the looser of a war.

Perhaps so, but in a counter-insurgency type war, war crimes may well contribute to losing a war, and not vice versa as you suggest. For example, the Stryker brigade killings, pissing on war dead, and posing with body parts in Afghanistan strengthen the resolve of the enemy and do nothing to further our cause.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Well then give them uniforms and send them into combat, and let them command. And when the medics pick them up and clean the shit from their pants, send them back to the front to lead ! I would love to see the civilian command the military, from the front !

And I would have to agree with you, that several high ranking politically motivated military officers, that have never been in combat, would refute the :no holds barred mentality, in order to be promoted by the civilian command.

War should be the most horrible experience imaginable. That way everyone will think twice before engaging in one. And ounce they do engage in a war, keep the week willed and week minded out of the way, and let the military win the war..

In other words, anyone who does not see it your way is weak and feeble?

Regards,

D-Ray

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Perhaps so, but in a counter-insurgency type war, war crimes may well contribute to losing a war, and not vice versa as you suggest. For example, the Stryker brigade killings, pissing on war dead, and posing with body parts in Afghanistan strengthen the resolve of the enemy and do nothing to further our cause.

Finn,

Every Muslim in Afghanistan hates our Infidel Guts, even those that bowel and take our money.

Fighting a war where we are not wanted is as useless as planting trees in a desert. Ounce we are gone, they will die.

These people hate us when the Teleban kill them, they just want us to go home.

The only way to do anything more in Afghanistan is to let the Muslims from other nations do it. They may listen to them ?

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

In other words, anyone who does not see it your way is weak and feeble?

Regards,

D-Ray

Dray,

Why do you enjoy twisting my words this way ?

I speak plainly, no double entendre .

I believe that the civilian authorities should control the military, however, ounce they declare war, they should allow the trained military, whom they have entrusted the power of the world, to plan, command and execute the total operations of the war, until it is won, or lost.

The roll of politicians and ambassadors ends when war or peace is agreed upon. Political, industrial and financial matters have no place running a war, ounce it's declared.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

I THINK plainly...

Fixed it for you.

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Political, industrial and financial matters have no place running a war, ounce it's declared.

Did I miss a declaration?

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

is as useless as planting trees in a desert.

Hey, I do that.

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Fixed it for you.



Did I miss a declaration?

No Zeke, you only missed my point. Unless a a declaration of war is made by Congress, we should not be there murdering the indigenous people of a country.

But you often miss the points as they are made, and make up you own. So go back to sleep for now, and someone will wake you when something important is written.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

...someone will wake you when something important is written.

I notice that nobody -- ever -- leaps to do such after your missives.

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

No Zeke, you only missed my point. Unless a a declaration of war is made by Congress, we should not be there murdering the indigenous people of a country.

But you often miss the points as they are made, and make up you own. So go back to sleep for now, and someone will wake you when something important is written.

Congress has not passed a formal declaration of war since WWII.

Korea, Vietnam, the occupation of Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, The Gulf war, Operation Enduring Freedom, operation Iraqi Freedom these and hundreds more are not formally declared wars in our history. They are Military engagements authorized by Congress or Military engagements authorized by United Nations Security Council Resolutions and funded by Congress.

Are you just using declaration of war as a blanket statement or do you believe we should only engage in wars actually declared by Congress.

I have a problem with the decision to go to war being handed over to the Executive branch who has Congress rubber stamp the decision. I think we need to think long and hard before we enter the battlefield. Sadly, that is not this countries history.