Did Obama Just Throw The Entire Election?

whell · #1 10-09-2012, 07:45 AM

Andrew Sullivan over at the Daily Best is in on-going meltdown mode after the Prez's debate. He also cites the Pew Research poll released yesterday that has been roundly ignored by the mainstream press, which shows Romney in the lead after a significant turnaround. The usual disclaimers here, like "its just a poll", "There's still 3.5 weeks to go", etc. However, the poll does reflect others that show Romney cutting into Obama's lead.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....tion-away.html

Please move sharp objects out of Sullivan's reach.

CarlV · #2 10-09-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

Please move sharp objects out of Sullivan's reach.

Please move Sullivan's articles out of my reach.

Carl

BlueStreak · #3 10-09-2012, 11:58 AM

Yes, his performance was bad. Yes, it did give Romney an edge-----for now.
Yes, the Pew Poll is the only one that reflects such a large lead.

No, I don't think it's accurate.

Funny, how you can claim the so-called "left-wing media" skews polls to Democratic favor, but never recognize that the right could possibly do the same. Are you attempting to say ALL of the others are left wing biased?

Regards,
Dave

Boreas · #4 10-09-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Funny, how you can claim the so-called "left-wing media" skews polls to Democratic favor, but never recognize that the right could possibly do the same. Are you attempting to say ALL of the others are left wing biased?

Regards,
Dave

When Obama had a clear and widening lead the Right Wing was screaming that the polls were rigged, even the Fox and Rasmussen polls. Now that the polls show Obama's lead shrinking or even disappearing the polls have suddenly become an honest and accurate reflection of the "people's will".

Funny about that.

John

bobabode · #5 10-09-2012, 12:50 PM

Myth? Busted..Do you remember Faux's Ingraham doing her meltdown after the 47% video came out?

These type of poll's are known as outlier's. There was one that had Obama at +9%, did anyone cite that poll as their baseline? Nope.

Sorry, whell. If you look at RCP's long baseline you'll see why R$R's gooses are statistically cooked. Not too mention there are two more debates and one VP debate.

Enjoy the sugar rush, dude.

bhunter · #6 10-09-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

When Obama had a clear and widening lead the Right Wing was screaming that the polls were rigged, even the Fox and Rasmussen polls. Now that the polls show Obama's lead shrinking or even disappearing the polls have suddenly become an honest and accurate reflection of the "people's will".

Funny about that.

John

Rich Galen said it best: "A campaign would rather be trending up rather than down." Given the current polls, I think the most that can be said is that the election will be close. If I were betting, I'd still be betting on the incumbent.

whell · #7 10-09-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

When Obama had a clear and widening lead the Right Wing was screaming that the polls were rigged, even the Fox and Rasmussen polls. Now that the polls show Obama's lead shrinking or even disappearing the polls have suddenly become an honest and accurate reflection of the "people's will".

Funny about that.

John

I've never made that claim, yet you inject it into this thread. Funny about that.

bobabode · #8 10-09-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

I've never made that claim, yet you inject it into this thread. Funny about that.

Oh right, polls exist in a vacumm, thanks fer the 'esplanation.

whell · #9 10-09-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode

Sorry, whell. If you look at RCP's long baseline you'll see why R$R's gooses are statistically cooked. Not too mention there are two more debates and one VP debate.

Do you even check your facts before you post them? Here's what RCP is showing now:

RCP National Average: Obama - 47.8, Romney - 48.2. Romney +0.4

As I posted the other day, most of the polls that RCP aggregates from are showing Romney within the poll's margin of error, or some actually show him leading.

bobabode · #10 10-09-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bhunter

Rich Galen said it best: "A campaign would rather be trending up rather than down." Given the current polls, I think the most that can be said is that the election will be close. If I were betting, I'd still be betting on the incumbent.

Couldn't have put it better.
Samuel Jackson did, though

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