The Internal Revenue Service inappropriately flagged conservative political groups

[bobabode]

You could move to Texas. Make sure there aren't any fertilizer plants nearby...

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Maybe the Supremes'll rethink that cynical piece o' crap 'Citizens United' decision that gave birth to this three headed monster?

Why don't we do the right thing and rethink the current tax system? We spend zillions of dollars trying to support a tax system run by the IRS, with the real purpose of the system being to allow governemt officials to buy and sell political favors. It's the same IRS that gives birth to crap like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...S%20letter.pdf

It's all so damn unnecessary, a collossal waste of money and time. We have the means to simplify the whole thing. We should just do that, put the money grubbing political machines out of business, and I think we'd be surprised at the end of the day how much money we had to actually run the country.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Why don't we do the right thing and rethink the current tax system? We spend zillions of dollars trying to support a tax system run by the IRS, with the real purpose of the system being to allow governemt officials to buy and sell political favors. It's the same IRS that gives birth to crap like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...S%20letter.pdf

It's all so damn unnecessary, a collossal waste of money and time. We have the means to simplify the whole thing. We should just do that, put the money grubbing political machines out of business, and I think we'd be surprised at the end of the day how much money we had to actually run the country.

Agree completely.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Why don't we do the right thing and rethink the current tax system? We spend zillions of dollars trying to support a tax system run by the IRS, with the real purpose of the system being to allow governemt officials to buy and sell political favors. It's the same IRS that gives birth to crap like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...S%20letter.pdf

It's all so damn unnecessary, a collossal waste of money and time. We have the means to simplify the whole thing. We should just do that, put the money grubbing political machines out of business, and I think we'd be surprised at the end of the day how much money we had to actually run the country.

Meh, I think any group applying for tax exempt status should get a proctological exam from their rectum to their tonsils. Religious organizations included. I would say it's sad that you don't believe that the 1st amendment is very important if I'm reading your second paragraph correctly.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

I would say it's sad that you don't believe that the 1st amendment is very important if I'm reading your second paragraph correctly.

Then you're not reading me correctly.

[whell]

Meanwhile, the news just keeps getting worse:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...1f9_print.html

The IRS harassment / intimidation efforts went far beyond the activities of a small group of employees at a single IRS office.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

We should just do that, put the money grubbing political machines out of business,

I thought you were pretty clear in the above, Mike. Isn't money speech?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

I thought you were pretty clear in the above, Mike. Isn't money speech?

Contribute to whomever or whatever you want to, Bob. I could care less. That's the First Ammendment in action.

Now, why the fuck do I have to subsidize your free speech in action? You want to contribute to the Looney Lefty Alliance? Fine. But your contributions need not have any unique protection from Taxes. Nor should the recipients have any special tax treatment or protection. Those organizations are a business just like any other, be they right wing, left wing, center, or out there with you on the bleeding edge of the lunatic fringe.

Political contributions should be taxable. Period.

Does that clarify it for you?

Then, since political contributions will flow far less freely, let's nuke the IRS while we're at it and replace it with a tax system that you don't need a gaggle of CPA's and tax attorneys to decode and comprehend.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Why don't we do the right thing and rethink the current tax system? We spend zillions of dollars trying to support a tax system run by the IRS, with the real purpose of the system being to allow governemt officials to buy and sell political favors. It's the same IRS that gives birth to crap like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...S%20letter.pdf

It's all so damn unnecessary, a collossal waste of money and time. We have the means to simplify the whole thing. We should just do that, put the money grubbing political machines out of business, and I think we'd be surprised at the end of the day how much money we had to actually run the country.

Agreed in principle.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Contribute to whomever or whatever you want to, Bob. I could care less. That's the First Ammendment in action.

Now, why the fuck do I have to subsidize your free speech in action? You want to contribute to the Looney Lefty Alliance? Fine. But your contributions need not have any unique protection from Taxes. Nor should the recipients have any special tax treatment or protection. Those organizations are a business just like any other, be they right wing, left wing, center, or out there with you on the bleeding edge of the lunatic fringe.

Political contributions should be taxable. Period.

Does that clarify it for you?

Then, since political contributions will flow far less freely, let's nuke the IRS while we're at it and replace it with a tax system that you don't need a gaggle of CPA's and tax attorneys to decode and comprehend.

Almost in agreement. But I am opposed to nucular violence.
And yes, speech is already free so why does this need a subsidy?
Now if only I could get my taxes "Quickened" for $99.