Iran has auto industry.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The weight of the key chain overrode a defective detente spring in the switch and turned the car off at highway speed, thereby losing power-steering and brakes, not to mention the airbag after the accident occurred.

I guess people are pissed more about how Management handle the issue.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The weight of the key chain overrode a defective detente spring in the switch and turned the car off at highway speed, thereby losing power-steering and brakes, not to mention the airbag after the accident occurred.

Are you shitin me?

WTF is a detente spring?

This would never happen in one of those old school cars.

I wish the hell they would go back to the plain old keys without all this electronic crap.

Shit, I got stranded once because a screw came loose and the fucking chip fell out of my whatever they call it now. A fob or some such shit as that?

Too Goddamned many bells ad whistles on cars these days. It's just more shit that can break down on you is all it is.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Are you shitin me?

WTF is a detente spring?

The detente spring is the spring that holds the key's position in the desired place. GM (actually AC Delco) put too short a spring in the ignition switch and it thereby put too little force behind the plunger that goes into the little divots that keep the key in its chosen position.

These aren't newfangled ignition switches. They are the same basic design as has been used for a half a century.

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[VanishingPoi]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Are you shitin me?

WTF is a detente spring?

This would never happen in one of those old school cars.

I wish the hell they would go back to the plain old keys without all this electronic crap.

Shit, I got stranded once because a screw came loose and the fucking chip fell out of my whatever they call it now. A fob or some such shit as that?

Too Goddamned many bells ad whistles on cars these days. It's just more shit that can break down on you is all it is.

Yeah, but think of all jobs it can create! Just kidding....

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The weight of the key chain overrode a defective detente spring in the switch and turned the car off at highway speed, thereby losing power-steering and brakes, not to mention the airbag after the accident occurred.

I never could understand the penchant for having everything but the kitchen sink on you key chain. Ours have the ignition key and the door opener.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I never could understand the penchant for having everything but the kitchen sink on you key chain. Ours have the ignition key and the door opener.

Amen brother. The wife has a million fobs, mini-tools, store discount tags, etc. on her keychain. When I drive her car, I grab the other key on a ring with only the mailbox key.

The only thing worthy of sharing the key ring with a muscle car, IMO, is a church key (bottle/can opener for you young 'uns)

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Whats the deal with that?

I haven't looked into it, just heard about it.

How do you get killed by a bad ignition switch?

It's just a matter of time until every GM on the road has been recalled. They've recalled the Buick, I suspect the Tahoe is next.

I've already sworn off GM though.

I realized when I bought the Mustang I'd been a fool for buying GM products.

[piece-itpete]

Every time I see the thread title I get a chuckle.

Pete

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Yeah, but back in those days we didn't even have seat belts let alone air bags.

And people were killed all the time in accidents. I agree all these computers on wheels really suck but you are so much safer today.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by MikeG22

And people were killed all the time in accidents. I agree all these computers on wheels really suck but you are so much safer today.

True that.

Actually,

I recently rode in a really nice '69 Camaro. Compared to todays vehicles it was noisy (full of various rattles/wind noise), uncomfortable and floats like a balloon at the higher speeds. Fast, strong acceleration, but watch those curves............

Dave