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12-07-2011, 02:22 PM
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How did it become wealthy in the first place? Government regulation? Or men with vision desiring wealth?
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Option two, our course. But desiring it just a little too much. And being a tad too ruthless in their pursuit of it.
Action-Reaction.
There is a tipping point, where those being driven will take no more.
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12-07-2011, 09:47 AM
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Wealth was always the goal!
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12-07-2011, 02:42 PM
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Wealth was always the goal!
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Then the outcome was inevitable, If my aim is to become wealthy and I search around for some widget that will sell and make me wealthy then I will make it a cheaply as possible.
If , on the other hand I invent the proverbial mousetrap then I will endeavour to make it as well as it can be made - why? Because it has my name on it.
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06-26-2012, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Then the outcome was inevitable, If my aim is to become wealthy and I search around for some widget that will sell and make me wealthy then I will make it a cheaply as possible.
If , on the other hand I invent the proverbial mousetrap then I will endeavour to make it as well as it can be made - why? Because it has my name on it.
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so you say , you are the status flow. just saying.
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06-26-2012, 08:16 AM
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so you say , you are the status flow. just saying.
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Do we need further proof that drinking causes brain damage?
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12-07-2011, 02:58 PM
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Blue, then the reaction is - hellholes like Detroit or Cleveland? I know what you mean, but it wasn't the wealthy that ruined Cleveland anyway. Heck, just about the only 'good' things here, like the art museum or Severance hall were built and paid for by the wealthy!
Sometimes I visit them and wonder what wealth is like lol.
Rob I was wrong about it being wealth, alone and exclusively. Perhaps success it a better term. And to many wealth is a part of their envisioned success.
Pete
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12-07-2011, 03:32 PM
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Blue, then the reaction is - hellholes like Detroit or Cleveland? I know what you mean, but it wasn't the wealthy that ruined Cleveland anyway. Heck, just about the only 'good' things here, like the art museum or Severance hall were built and paid for by the wealthy!
Sometimes I visit them and wonder what wealth is like lol.
Rob I was wrong about it being wealth, alone and exclusively. Perhaps success it a better term. And to many wealth is a part of their envisioned success.
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Pete, you nailed it this time. Pursuit of wealth for the sake of wealth gets us toxic derivatives. I've seen companies built with pride in craftsmanship begin to fail when the only concern became the profit margin. Isn't the focus on cutting corners to make more money what was, at least in part, responsible for the scourge of BPC?
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12-07-2011, 03:49 PM
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Pete, you nailed it this time. Pursuit of wealth for the sake of wealth gets us toxic derivatives. I've seen companies built with pride in craftsmanship begin to fail when the only concern became the profit margin. Isn't the focus on cutting corners to make more money what was, at least in part, responsible for the scourge of BPC?
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Uh......Bingo!
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12-08-2011, 09:31 AM
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I'd still say most consider wealth the most important thing. People are idiots though, instead of long term stability they kill the golden goose and spend what they have.
Sounds like Washington
Pete
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12-08-2011, 09:47 AM
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I'd still say most consider wealth the most important thing. People are idiots though, instead of long term stability they kill the golden goose and spend what they have.
Sounds like Washington
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If you think about it, Pete, what the eternal fight is about is this;
Few people will argue against the idea that there must be some degree of financial incentive, that's not the argument.
The argument lies in what is reasonable incentive, and what actions are acceptable in the pursuit of wealth?
Do you spread the wealth until no one has anything?---Communism.
Or do you allow unchecked concentration of wealth until only a few have it all?---Unregulated Capitalism.
Both run on the same foolish assumptions.....That either powerful governments or powerful corporations will, given the freedom to do as they see fit and out of the goodness of their hearts, see that the average citizen fares well.
Problem is; Power corrupts and most ambitious people seek to advance only themselves.
I'd rather empower the "average citizens" to protect their own interests, and hope that this strikes a sort of balance.
Dave
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