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Old 07-28-2011, 11:30 AM
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Debt Fight Meaning

I found this over at:
http://reason.com/archives/2011/07/2...-crazy-or-just

I wonder how many voters actually understand what the debt battle actually entails. I thought this was straight forward without all the obfuscation and FUD of the parties.

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At this point it might be useful to clarify precisely what the dispute concerns. The question is not whether the federal government should grow. As Reason's Nick Gillespie pointed out a few days ago, nearly nobody in Washington has actually proposed shrinking the leviathan. To the contrary, the dispute is whether to raise federal spending from the current $3.8 trillion to $4.7 trillion over the next decade (the Paul Ryan plan)—or to $5.7 trillion (the Obama plan).
Bear in mind that those increases would come on top of one of the fastest expansions of federal spending in U.S. history. When President Obama took office, the budget stood at $2.9 trillion. Two. Point. Nine.

Spending has risen 30 percent in the past three years. It is quite a feat to grow federal spending faster than the Bush administration: Under Bush, domestic discretionary spending rose faster than at any time since the Lyndon Johnson administration.

If Bush floored the accelerator, then Obama lit the afterburners. And nobody in Washington (except Sen. Rand Paul and perhaps Sen. Tom Coburn) has suggested applying the brakes. For the most part, the cuts being discussed are reductions in the rate of future growth. What does that mean? This: (a) your rent is $10,000 this year; (b) you thought you were going to spend $15,000 next year; but (c) you've decided to spend only $12,000—therefore, (d) you've "cut" your housing expenses by $3,000.
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:51 PM
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Reason Mag is a constant companion.. But they got something wrong there.

Obama's name shouldn't be on his Nobel Prize and it shouldn't be on the growing deficit.. He actually has not LED very much at all on ANY budget or legislative initiative.

Those big chunks of indebtedness should have Pelosi/Reid all over them..

In fact, they ought to dig a huge hole in the Washington Mall and build an inverted phallic structure INTO the hole to honor this historical feat.. The stairs leading down to the memorial could be dedicated to GW Bush.. With that famous quote about "sacrificing free market principles in order to save them"

Think we could take up a private fund for this memorial??

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Old 07-28-2011, 06:23 PM
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Reason Mag is a constant companion.. But they got something wrong there.

Obama's name shouldn't be on his Nobel Prize and it shouldn't be on the growing deficit.. He actually has not LED very much at all on ANY budget or legislative initiative.

Those big chunks of indebtedness should have Pelosi/Reid all over them..

In fact, they ought to dig a huge hole in the Washington Mall and build an inverted phallic structure INTO the hole to honor this historical feat.. Think we could take up a private fund for this memorial??
Come on, Obama only won a Nobel.

Now Big Al won not only a Nobel, but an Oscar for his movie.

Now maybe he plagiarized part of the footage from "The Morning After", or whatever that shithead movie was that was about the two fisted college professor who crossed 1,000 miles of snow covered wasteland on snowshoes, with temperatures which would freeze liquid nitrogen, to save a handful of college kids, along with a nigger with a plastic bag on his head, while they happened to be burning books at a university just to keep from freezing.

The best part was the guy who kinda looked like Chainey who was practically on his knees thanking the Presidente of Mexico for kindly allowing what was left of our population to emigrate to his country after we had destroyed ours through global warming.

I laughed, I cried. Just kidding....basically I just cussed a lot.

Mindless drivel for bucktoothed cretins. Kinda like the Nobel has become.

Now ask me what I really think,

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Old 07-28-2011, 06:36 PM
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Chas,
We can all disagree and all state our opinons. But please refrain from using any deragotry racial slures. You are above that.

I find the deragotroy slures to be extremely rude and offensive.

Mark
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:40 PM
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Bhunter,
That was an intersting quote. I knew some of what you posted, but I didn't quite internalize it until now.

So, even if they quit bickering and come to a deal, we asre all still screwed.

If that is the case, I think it is best we go into full default, things blow up. Maybe the american people will wake up and replace the clowns with real statesmen.

So, how did we actually get this bad?

I looked up the 2011 budget and could see the budget chart, but how did it grow to its size? If it got this much bigger, then where has all the extra expenditure gone.
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:21 PM
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Chas,
We can all disagree and all state our opinons. But please refrain from using any deragotry racial slures. You are above that.

I find the deragotroy slures to be extremely rude and offensive.

Mark
I used to work at the joint. Missouri State Penitentiary, 82-84. The worst of the worst.

Perhaps I'm living in the past, but the "N" word could be used as a term of affection, humor, benign, rude, or a personal insult.

I have never used it as a personal insult.

Have you ever been around any black people?

They're not nearly as uptight as you think.

And I'm not politically correct.

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Old 07-28-2011, 08:52 PM
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I have been around many black people. Maybe Denver is a different culture.

Even so, I find this use of deragotry words to be representaion of the level of respect you have for the people you are addressing.

I would never talk that way in front of my mother, my father, my kids or wife.

I wouldn't talk this way in front of my friends.

I respectfully ask you to refrain from using this kind of language.

Cuss all you want, no problems there. But deragatory slures about race or disability is something I cannot stomach.

Thank you,
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Chas,
But please refrain from using any deragotry racial slures. You are above that.

I find the deragotroy slures to be extremely rude and offensive.

Mark
Oh no! Sorry dude, but we talk that type of shit here. If you think PC has any place here, it's time for you to go. That's why this board is here and not on the other site.
Sack up motherfucker!
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:29 AM
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Oh no! Sorry dude, but we talk that type of shit here. If you think PC has any place here, it's time for you to go. That's why this board is here and not on the other site.
Sack up motherfucker!
Did you hear about this one? The park didn't do anything wrong IMO, but a couple feel the need to take it to the next level.

http://news.yahoo.com/gay-couple-ask...200120079.html
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Oh no! Sorry dude, but we talk that type of shit here. If you think PC has any place here, it's time for you to go. That's why this board is here and not on the other site.
Sack up motherfucker!
I am not quite sure how to take this. I assume you are being half serious and half joking.

Fair enough. My turn.

Sticks and stones will break my bones...........

And

I know you are but what am I?


Finally, when the brian quits working and intelligence is short, the mouth runith over.

So rasberries at ya.

And now for the serious side.
Whatever............
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