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Old 07-14-2013, 12:16 PM
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stereocuuple you are always using the nuclear option
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:27 PM
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Zimmerman will soon be a footnote to history as the media moves on to the latest cute gal who murdered her boyfriend/children or was murdered while on an overseas vacation.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:29 PM
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:36 PM
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oh no no no no.

CA. and i mean all of it goes with you fellas.

we could balance the federal budget instantly.

oh yeah enjoy your $60.00 loaves of bread.

we could also sell CA. to the Chinese.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:40 PM
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oh no no no no.

CA. and i mean all of it goes with you fellas.

we could balance the federal budget instantly.

oh yeah enjoy your $60.00 loaves of bread.

we could also sell CA. to the Chinese.
Naw, at most the northern part
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:05 PM
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oh no no no no.

CA. and i mean all of it goes with you fellas.

we could balance the federal budget instantly.
No, you couldn't. Washington and California are net contributors (e.g. they give far more money to the Federal Government than they demand in return) and Oregon is barely a net consumer (it's balance is approximately -$500/person). The budget would be in worse shape by about $55B. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good narrative.

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Old 07-14-2013, 01:11 PM
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No, you couldn't. Washington and California are net contributors (e.g. they give far more money to the Federal Government than they demand in return) and Oregon is barely a net consumer (it's balance is approximately -$500/person). The budget would be in worse shape by about $55B. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good narrative.

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Indeed, Derek. If the rest of the country wanted a model, look no further than California. The teabagger narrative that California is broke and shattered could not be farther from the truth. Gov. Brown just signed a balanced budget and we posted a surplus. It couldn't have been accomplished without a super majority in the state assembly and state senate.
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Indeed! Just yesterday my cousin was proposing expanding that idea from Washington to Tierra Del Fuego.
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:17 PM
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Pat...and Chas,

The reason you should be concerned has little to do with George Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin.

It has everything to do with the people watching it and the license they think they have just been given by precedence.

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Old 07-14-2013, 01:21 PM
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I do believe that after the media and DOJ got into the act, Zimmerman was overcharged. Whether he killed Martin in self defense can never be determined since we only have Zimmerman's word. Not his testimony. So the jury was correct in determining that there was no compelling evidence to convict him.

But if Zimmerman was charged with stalking an unarmed kid in the dark when he was trying his best to avoid Zimmerman and get to the safety of his father's home, thereby causing his death, the outcome may have been different. For compelling evidence, the 911 operator strongly suggested that he not follow the kid so Zimmerman did have a choice.

NAACP is already making noise for a civil case and I expect him to get nailed on this. I too have not watched this case unfold on TV so my information is strictly from the print media.
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