Zimmerman trial starts today. - Page 48

BlueStreak · #1 07-14-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn

I do believe that after the media and DOJ got into the act, Zimmerman was overcharged. Whether he killed Martin in self defense can never be determined since we only have Zimmerman's word. Not his testimony. So the jury was correct in determining that there was no compelling evidence to convict him.

But if Zimmerman was charged with stalking an unarmed kid in the dark when he was trying his best to avoid Zimmerman and get to the safety of his father's home, thereby causing his death, the outcome may have been different. For compelling evidence, the 911 operator strongly suggested that he not follow the kid so Zimmerman did have a choice.

NAACP is already making noise for a civil case and I expect him to get nailed on this. I too have not watched this case unfold on TV so my information is strictly from the print media.

Yes! That's what I'm talkin' about!

Where was Zimmermans justification in following Martin in the first place?

Why did he leave his vehicle to begin with?

Instead of making assumptions of race, the prosecutor should have posed these points as questions. Where was the justification for the entire incident?

To my mind, there was none.

The 911 call says it all. Dark, raining, someone walking with his hood up and "something" in his hand. Think I'll follow him and see what he's "up to"..........

Stop right there.

What has he actually done?

Nothing.

Dave

Zeke · #2 07-14-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

What has he actually done?

He was black and Zimmerman-types are cowards.

icenine · #3 07-14-2013, 01:26 PM

I think the overarching theme is that in this case points out the perception that black children are not as worth much as white children. I really believe if Martin were white he would be alive now, or if he had been shot Zimmerman would have been behind bars. You have to remember that I think the police did not let Mr. Martin even see his son's body for well over 24 hours (if this is the case where that took place)...

and there has been some feeling that the investigation and evidence collection was shoddy

It is the perception that law enforcement does things different to different people...a white child from one of the wealthy of elites of Sanford would have gotten a red carpet treatment from the police i.e. a much better investigation. I believe that, In fact you could say the prosecution was hampered by that and sort of proves my point.

Zeke · #4 07-14-2013, 01:29 PM

I think this case points out the that stupid and fearful people should not possess firearms as they'll use them against whatever they fear.

In this case, that would be a seventeen-year-old black kid.

BlueStreak · #5 07-14-2013, 02:01 PM

When I'm out walking, I see people of all types out as well. I don't follow any of them to see what they're "up to", and I would expect to be confronted if I did. People don't like being followed, by anyone including "creepy cracker(s)" like me.

At any point Zim could have simply disengaged.

Dave

bobabode · #6 07-14-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

When I'm out walking, I see people of all types out as well. I don't follow any of them to see what they're "up to", and I would expect to be confronted if I did. People don't like being followed, by anyone including "creepy cracker(s)" like me.

At any point Zim could have simply disengaged.

Dave

and/or identified himself as a NW volunteer. I'm sure that had he done so even after the altercation was underway the dead kid would have disengaged and the police would have been able do their job.

noonereal · #7 07-14-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

At any point Zim could have simply disengaged.

Dave

Why did Zim did not offer Trayvon a ride as it was raining?

BlueStreak · #8 07-14-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal

Why did Zim did not offer Trayvon a ride as it was raining?

No back seats?

Dave

bobabode · #9 07-14-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

No back seats?

Dave

Bam...

icenine · #10 07-14-2013, 02:15 PM

I wonder if there was an informal but established relationship between Zimmerman and the Sanford police before the killing? They sure did seem rather overbearing in their willingness to chauffeur him around and let him explain his side of the story after he shot the kid. Does everyone get that treatment?

Were they giving preferential treatment to an annoying but friendly citizen? I wonder if he was a regular...

you remember sick bay commandos Dave? was he one of those sorts? so much of an frequent caller to the cops he becomes a departmental friend?