Israel has invaded Gaza...

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

After arguing with many here for many years I will say plainly that I consider many my friends and certainly don't believe they are intentionally racist.

Thick stubborn and wrong, regularly, yes.



Pete

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

[piece-itpete]

I hate all those bastards.

Pete

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

You continue to conflate disagreement with Israeli's policies with antisemitism. Both certainly exist, but the former isn't necessarily caused by the latter. Worse yet, those that question the Likud coalition's actions are "in bed with terrorists." I guess that makes Israel's Finance Minister both.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

After arguing with many here for many years I will say plainly that I consider many my friends and certainly don't believe they are intentionally racist.

Thick stubborn and wrong, regularly, yes.



Pete

Plus one...

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You continue to conflate disagreement with Israeli's policies with antisemitism. Both certainly exist, but the former isn't necessarily caused by the latter. Worse yet, those that question the Likud coalition's actions are "in bed with terrorists." I guess that makes Israel's Finance Minister both.

I'm just referring to one member. And it ain't you Finn. So lighten up willya?

And if a guy can't have some fun with a little taste of some Tom Lehrer lyrics without it generating a lecture...this joint is gonna end up being a barren source of amusement.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I'm just referring to one member. And it ain't you Finn. So lighten up willya?

And if a guy can't have some fun with a little taste of some Tom Lehrer lyrics without it generating a lecture...this joint is gonna end up being a barren source of amusement.

It's still a cheap shot to equate someone to the Klan or call him a racist for his admittedly strong views on Israel's policies. It's intellectually lazy in the extreme. In a similar fashion, you said that I was "in bed" with terrorists. With arguments like that, you should sell all your shit, buy a pup tent and start you own settlement on a barbwire-encircled hilltop in the West Bank.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It's still a cheap shot to equate someone to the Klan or call him a racist for his admittedly strong views on Israel's policies. It's intellectually lazy in the extreme. In a similar fashion, you said that I was "in bed" with terrorists. With arguments like that, you should sell all your shit, buy a pup tent and start you own settlement on a barbwire-encircled hilltop in the West Bank.

You can call it whatever you like Finn. He quacks like a fucking duck. And you're in bed with Hamas. They're terrorists with black hoods on who just gunned down 18 likely innocent people in the streets of Gaza City to provide an example to the rest of the residents therein what happens to anybody who might even think of opposing them. And these are your heroic fighters who's primary goal is a Palestinian state. My ass. And Zeke calls the Jews "nazis." And I'm sure you still on track with Zionism=racism. If you quack like a duck.

And to be honest I've had a gut full your lecturing.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

You can call it whatever you like Finn. He quacks like a fucking duck. And you're in bed with Hamas. They're terrorists with black hoods on who just gunned down 18 likely innocent people in the streets of Gaza City to provide an example to the rest of the residents therein what happens to anybody who might even think of opposing them. And these are your heroic fighters who's primary goal is a Palestinian state. My ass. And Zeke calls the Jews "nazis." And I'm sure you still on track with Zionism=racism. If you quack like a duck.

And to be honest I've had a gut full your lecturing.

You're a disingenuous dick on this subject. Your approach is pretty much the same as the right wing assholes who called those who disapproved of Dubya's tactics "un-American."

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You're a disingenuous dick on this subject. Your approach is pretty much the same as the right wing assholes who called those who disapproved of Dubya's tactics "un-American."

Nail, meet hammer.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You're a disingenuous dick on this subject. Your approach is pretty much the same as the right wing assholes who called those who disapproved of Dubya's tactics "un-American."

And you're a self-absorbed, self-indulgent, endlessly droning expert dripping with terminal uniqueness on everything you touch. As far as my dick-ness, I have no problem being the dick on a continuum at the extreme opposite end of right-wing assholes. I have opinions, I state my opinions and I make it clear when they differ from somebody else's opinions. What I don't do is lecture anybody on who they oughta be, what they oughta think, and how they should behave...which is your perpetually staked out turf, Finn. So stuff it...I already have a goddamn mother.

And I know a petty, pompous-ass Jew-basher when I see/hear one. Everybody here wants to excuse it...that's everybody's problem. And BTW, he's no less an off-topic cheap shot artist than 5 below was. Diving into a discussion with some personal comment unrelated to the debate. And what have we seen happen to a similarly behaved right-winger pompous idiot? He was handed his hat and shown the door.