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05-17-2016, 12:41 PM
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A realistic appraisal...50/50.
I believe the Democrats made a big mistake in the early anointing of the money-grubbing Clinton, and the Republicans are pissed with their leaders.
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It's an opportunity to perform for the Lib Party this year. To quit the ideology fights and focus on the reality of where we are as a nation. And it's like getting the ball on 40 yard line to have all those #nevertrump #neverhilliary folks out there.
In reality, (and Gary Johnson said this in the Lib debates) -- we support about 50% of what Bernie stands for.. We are Dems with fiscal sanity and Reps without all the moral judgments. Good place to be this year... We haven't changed -- the people have realized that the parties have become the tyrants that we were warned about..
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05-17-2016, 12:47 PM
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It's an opportunity to perform for the Lib Party this year. To quit the ideology fights and focus on the reality of where we are as a nation. And it's like getting the ball on 40 yard line to have all those #nevertrump #neverhilliary folks out there.
In reality, (and Gary Johnson said this in the Lib debates) -- we support about 50% of what Bernie stands for.. We are Dems with fiscal sanity and Reps without all the moral judgments. Good place to be this year... We haven't changed -- the people have realized that the parties have become the tyrants that we were warned about..
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A buddy calls this tyranny American Fascism. That descriptor works for me.
The parties work for the actual tyrants and the tyrants pay their politicians well.
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05-17-2016, 12:58 PM
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A buddy calls this tyranny American Fascism. That descriptor works for me.
The parties work for the actual tyrants and the tyrants pay their politicians well.
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Tyrants like Fred Koch, former Libertarian vice presidential candidate.
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05-17-2016, 01:42 PM
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A buddy calls this tyranny American Fascism. That descriptor works for me.
The parties work for the actual tyrants and the tyrants pay their politicians well.
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It's become abundantly clear that only 4 people actually RUN Congress. You cannot requisition a pencil or take a pee without those 4 party bosses. They control the dialogue, the legislation, the funding and and assignments. Cross them and you will be working out of a broom closet and facing a FUNDED competitor in your next re-election bid..
I believe the 2 parties are well capable of working for THEMSELVES. and they have a very low opinion of voters.
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05-17-2016, 02:50 PM
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It's become abundantly clear that only 4 people actually RUN Congress. You cannot requisition a pencil or take a pee without those 4 party bosses. They control the dialogue, the legislation, the funding and and assignments. Cross them and you will be working out of a broom closet and facing a FUNDED competitor in your next re-election bid..
I believe the 2 parties are well capable of working for THEMSELVES. and they have a very low opinion of voters.
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05-18-2016, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flacaltenn
It's become abundantly clear that only 4 people actually RUN Congress. You cannot requisition a pencil or take a pee without those 4 party bosses. They control the dialogue, the legislation, the funding and and assignments. Cross them and you will be working out of a broom closet and facing a FUNDED competitor in your next re-election bid..
I believe the 2 parties are well capable of working for THEMSELVES. and they have a very low opinion of voters.
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Welcome, another Tennessee guy huh?
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It occurs to me that republicans seem to view black, Mexican, LGBT, Muslims and poor people in the same light as Nazi Germans once viewed Jewish people. We must be vigilant that it goes no further.
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05-18-2016, 02:57 PM
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Welcome, another Tennessee guy huh?
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Yup. We love Hillbilly Hollywood south of Nashville. We were desperate to get the funk out of Silicon Valley and picked this area from a lot of others. That and I traveled to most of the SEC away games when I was in Grad Sch at Florida. I remember loving the scenery and the housing around Knoxville and Nashville..
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05-18-2016, 07:29 PM
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Yup. We love Hillbilly Hollywood south of Nashville. We were desperate to get the funk out of Silicon Valley and picked this area from a lot of others. That and I traveled to most of the SEC away games when I was in Grad Sch at Florida. I remember loving the scenery and the housing around Knoxville and Nashville..
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I had to get the funk outta Kansas. Nice to meet ya.
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It occurs to me that republicans seem to view black, Mexican, LGBT, Muslims and poor people in the same light as Nazi Germans once viewed Jewish people. We must be vigilant that it goes no further.
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05-17-2016, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flacaltenn
It's an opportunity to perform for the Lib Party this year. To quit the ideology fights and focus on the reality of where we are as a nation. And it's like getting the ball on 40 yard line to have all those #nevertrump #neverhilliary folks out there.
In reality, (and Gary Johnson said this in the Lib debates) -- we support about 50% of what Bernie stands for.. We are Dems with fiscal sanity and Reps without all the moral judgments. Good place to be this year... We haven't changed -- the people have realized that the parties have become the tyrants that we were warned about..
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Pretty hard to take you guys seriously after watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ug...?v=W1ugtes7ZYA
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05-17-2016, 01:50 PM
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Well Kuddos to RT news for doing that. Not sure why only 3 MINOR candidates were chosen for that debate -- but it points out that we have a robust CHOICE of candidates (about 12 if I remember). .
If you actually sat thru 2 hours of MINOR candidates -- imagine how much better it would be if simply watched the 2 debates that Stossel hosted for the 3 FRONT-RUNNING Lib candidates. Nobody has the support that Gary Johnson has - and he will likely be our nominee again this year..
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