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11-16-2016, 08:27 AM
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And the 2016 Ralph Nader Award Goes to… Bernie Sanders
http://time.com/4569766/bernie-sande...ph-nader-2016/
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Sanders distracted Hillary Clinton from creating a unified vision for the future
On Election Day, Senator Bernie Sanders earned the 2016 “Ralph Nader Award” for the Leftist Most Responsible for Helping Republicans Win the Presidency. True, Donald Trump cleverly exploited voters’ frustrations. And Hillary Clinton’s campaign in 2016 was as rigid and empty as it was when she lost in 2008. Still, Sanders helped Clinton lose. His insurgency pushed her too far left to prevent an effective re-centering in the fall, while goading her into wooing different constituencies rather than uniting the nation.
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A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me"
They point their crooked little fingers at everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves"
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11-16-2016, 08:34 AM
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Hillarybot loser spin.
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11-16-2016, 09:06 AM
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Bernie standing up in huge stadiums castigating Clinton did not really help his progressive goals.
Outcomes matter not emotion.
Hillary flawed? Of course. So is the electorate. If people who supported Sanders were so dense as to not vote for Hillary on 8 November then whatever Trump does to them is their own fault.
I am proud to be a Hillarybot. That shine will fade from Sanders as Trump threatens our democracy.
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11-16-2016, 09:10 AM
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Hillarybot loser spin.
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11-16-2016, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icenine
Bernie standing up in huge stadiums castigating Clinton did not really help his progressive goals.
Outcomes matter not emotion.
Hillary flawed? Of course. So is the electorate. If people who supported Sanders were so dense as to not vote for Hillary on 8 November then whatever Trump does to them is their own fault.
I am proud to be a Hillarybot. That shine will fade from Sanders as Trump threatens our democracy.
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Seems like this story from Time struck a nerve amongst the Berners. I wonder why?
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Last edited by bobabode; 11-16-2016 at 06:52 PM.
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11-16-2016, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Seems like this story from Time struck a nerve amongst the Berners. I wonder why?
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After losing in New York he should have toned it down.
If this was a normal person about to take over it would not be a big deal.
I voted for Hillary in 2008 but also voted for Obama that year. I would have voted for Sanders if he would have won the nomination.
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11-16-2016, 07:08 PM
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After losing in New York he should have toned it down.
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Hell he shouldn't have run at all.
After all, it was her turn to be President.
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11-16-2016, 07:55 PM
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Hell he shouldn't have run at all.
After all, it was her turn to be President.
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I would take that right now.
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11-16-2016, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icenine
After losing in New York he should have toned it down.
If this was a normal person about to take over it would not be a big deal.
I voted for Hillary in 2008 but also voted for Obama that year. I would have voted for Sanders if he would have won the nomination.
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I voted for Bernie in the primaries and Hillary in the general so I played the game by your rules. A lot of people did and she lost just the same.
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11-16-2016, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Does it feel good having someone to blame for Hillary's failure? You and ice need to take a cold hard look at your candidate and yourselves.
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I voted for Bernie in the primaries and Hillary in the general so I played the game by your rules. A lot of people did and she lost just the same.
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Well, la di f**kin' da, Boreas. Wanna lollipop? Were you out there trying to convince Berners elsewhere that they should suck it up and do the same? It sure didn't look like it from here with all the bitching and moaning.
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