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Old 04-29-2016, 03:29 PM
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Yes, in Trumpworld peaceful protesters are "miscreants" deserving of being "carried out on a stretcher".
No, just the ones who throw rocks at passing cars and smash police cars, like the miscreants last night did.

So far, to their credit, today's crowd is well - behaved for the most part. But hey, the day is still young.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:33 PM
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No, just the ones who throw rocks at passing cars and smash police cars, like the miscreants last night did.

So far, to their credit, today's crowd is well - behaved for the most part. But hey, the day is still young.
It was the peaceful protesters in Burlingame whom you called "today's sampling of miscreants", not yesterday's.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:39 PM
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So I see it is the evil Trump who is shutting down or attempting to shut down candidates' rallies.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:42 PM
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It was the peaceful protesters in Burlingame whom you called "today's sampling of miscreants", not yesterday's.
Wow, you noticed that, huh?

The move was prompted after protesters attempted to storm the front of the hotel, shortly before noon.

Miscreants.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:45 PM
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So I see it is the evil Trump who is shutting down or attempting to shut down candidates' rallies.
Probably some of the same "peaceful protesters" from last nights fun and games are handing out today at the SF Hyatt today.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:50 PM
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OK.

We're back to values, as we ponder elitism. In the movie The Third Man, the Orsen Wells character makes a famous speech in the defense of amoral elitists like himself. He says their power and elevated taste made possible all the peak achievements of humankind, such as elite art--he gives the 'nasty' Medici credit for the paintings of da Vinci. By contrast, he says the best egalitarian Switzerland has produced is 'co-co clocks.'

I think, in the end, we're stuck going with the gut on values. I know of no scientific way to compare the worth of one elite painting to a million carved wood clocks. But my gut is very sure that characters like the Medici and the nasty fellow Orsen was portraying are not justified by their superior taste in art, or by anything else.
Fully concur with these sentiments.

I don't think Plato had guys like the Medici or Harry Lime (Orson) in mind as guardians of the republic. I wonder if Aristotle recognized this possibility.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:52 PM
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Were the idea of Trump as president not so abhorrent, I might find it within myself to criticize the protestors.
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Old 04-29-2016, 04:22 PM
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Were the idea of Trump as president not so abhorrent, I might find it within myself to criticize the protestors.
For the sake of partisanship, then, its just fine to smash cop cars and throw rocks at innocent passers-by.

Nice.
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Probably some of the same "peaceful protesters" from last nights fun and games are handing out today at the SF Hyatt today.
The two locales are 500 miles apart.
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Were the idea of Trump as president not so abhorrent, I might find it within myself to criticize the protestors.
Dude, is he really that bad? I find myself wondering about your mother-in-law's preference.
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