Free Speech, Right to Privacy and Right to Bare Arms.

[piece-itpete]

"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well organized and armed militia is their best security."
Thomas Jefferson

"A people armed and free forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition and is a bulwark for the nation against foreign invasion and domestic oppression."
James Madison

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government."
Alexander Hamilton

"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..."
Alexander Hamilton

"... of the liberty of conscience in matters of religious faith, of speech and of the press; of the trial by jury of the vicinage in civil and criminal cases; of the benefit of the writ of habeas corpus; of the right to keep and bear arms.... If these rights are well defined, and secured against encroachment, it is impossible that government should ever degenerate into tyranny."
James Monroe

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole body of the people except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them..."
George Mason

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry

"Are we at least brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry

A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
Noah Webster

I'm beginning to question Burger.

Pete

[bobabode]

More craptastic talking points and outright mischaracterizations from your Amerikkkan Rifleman website? Sheesh. Stop embarrasing yourself.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well organized and armed militia is their best security."
Thomas Jefferson

"A people armed and free forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition and is a bulwark for the nation against foreign invasion and domestic oppression."
James Madison

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government."
Alexander Hamilton

"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..."
Alexander Hamilton

"... of the liberty of conscience in matters of religious faith, of speech and of the press; of the trial by jury of the vicinage in civil and criminal cases; of the benefit of the writ of habeas corpus; of the right to keep and bear arms.... If these rights are well defined, and secured against encroachment, it is impossible that government should ever degenerate into tyranny."
James Monroe

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole body of the people except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them..."
George Mason

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry

"Are we at least brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry

A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
Noah Webster

I'm beginning to question Burger.

Pete

Mostly Rorschachs for people who want to see unfettered access to guns as a God-given right but, regardless of that, the wording of what actually made it into law and into the Constitution is very clear. The Militia and the associated right to bear arms were for the defense of the country against invasion or insurrection. It is not to facilitate insurrection.

John

[merrylander]

And the funniest bit was all the weapons at Williamsburg were locked in the armoury.

[BlueStreak]

"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..."
Alexander Hamilton

Only makes sense in a world wherein the battlefield is level....Musket against Musket.
Those days are LONG gone. I'm pretty sure todays military could exact a horrendous kill ratio, probably better than 1,000 to one. In some situations they wouldn't need to send soldiers in at all.

Think Hamilton foresaw any of that, Pete?

Regards,
Dave

[BlueStreak]

"Are we at least brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry

Actually, yes. We do have a right many ill informed and downright stupid people who are heavily armed and ready for their call to action, to shoot whomever they perceive to be an enemy, whether that person really is an enemy or not.

Regards,
Dave

[icenine]

That was a different world Pete...were talking bears in the woods and Native American threats and the English still very much in control in Canada and on the high seas....we were a baby nation then...we needed the weapons. We are much bigger now and run the whole world (more or less lol)

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

And the funniest bit was all the weapons at Williamsburg were locked in the armoury.

Yeah, well, that was "different". See it was okay for the Founders (Federal government at the time.) to control the weapons and put down insurrection, but now theres a Gay, Muslim Half-breed Communist from Kenya in the Whitehouse. That changes every thing.

Regards,
Dave

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

And the funniest bit was all the weapons at Williamsburg were locked in the armoury.

Also at Lexington and Concord.

John

[Oerets]

Ask yourself why are grenades dynamite bazookas cannons mortars , a whole list of weapons are restricted and for good reasons. But a M15 a military clone can be bought legally by just about anyone in a private or gun show sale?




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