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10-28-2013, 06:55 PM
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Actually, it's the poachers who have driven them close to extinction, not the trophy hunters.
They're a different breed, and if you're not a hunter I doubt that you can understand them at all. They are also staunch conservationists, hence the reason for this safari. They put their money where their mouth is.
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Yeah, right. Let's kill one of the last black rhinos to save the species. You'ld be making me laugh if that position wasn't absurd on the face of it.
I'm no hunter but I do fish and every California Black Seabass that I've caught was revived and sent back into the briney deep to live another day and if I saw another angler catch and keep one, the department of Fish and Game would be waiting at the dock. Shit, I've said it before and I'll say it again-I don't have a problem with hunters taking game as long as they eat it and I don't care if they display the rack on the wall. Hell, they're saving me a big fix it bill from running over some mangy muley on the highway.
It sounds like you're being just contrary today to get your rocks off. Grab a cold one and think it through, buddy. The old days off bagging the big five for a trophy mount are over unless you want to do it bowhunting, imo. I would love to see a dumb mother**ker from Dallas go after a Cape Buffalo with a compound bow.
edit-I would pay to see it.
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10-28-2013, 11:43 PM
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If you had a chance to come home with a JBL Paragon, would you do it?
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Sure.
If you had a chance to shoot a JBL Paragon, would you do it?
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Really. WTF, Chas? Not a very good comparison.
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10-29-2013, 04:04 AM
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Quote:
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They're a different breed, and if you're not a hunter I doubt that you can understand them at all.
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What's to understand? People get turned on by all sorts of things, and having a particular obsession does not make one special. Sheesh.
Here, Ninotchka's attitude on flirting is rather similar to my attitude on hunting of endangered species:
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1596813
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10-29-2013, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Really. WTF, Chas? Not a very good comparison.
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I suppose not, I was drawing a correlation between collectors, and this issue is primarily an auction.
And, as the Safari Club pointed out in a different article, this is a public auction for a tag, there are no provisions that it must actually be filled.
Which means that anyone, including yourselves can win it. And then tear it up if you wish. It's actually a chance for EVERYONE to put their money where their mouth is.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...green&ir=Green
Besides, culling the herd has long been an accepted practice of wildlife management. It's not like the Safari Club wants to go down there and kill them all.
Besides, I would like to offer my congratulations to Wayne Pacelle (CEO, Humane Society US) for using the term "slippery slope" to advance his slippery slope argument. I'm sure that Don would relish the thought of opposing him in a court of law.
To quote the Hon. Buggs Bunny, "What a maroon."
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10-29-2013, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Yeah, right. Let's kill one of the last black rhinos to save the species. You'ld be making me laugh if that position wasn't absurd on the face of it.
I'm no hunter but I do fish and every California Black Seabass that I've caught was revived and sent back into the briney deep to live another day and if I saw another angler catch and keep one, the department of Fish and Game would be waiting at the dock. Shit, I've said it before and I'll say it again-I don't have a problem with hunters taking game as long as they eat it and I don't care if they display the rack on the wall. Hell, they're saving me a big fix it bill from running over some mangy muley on the highway.
It sounds like you're being just contrary today to get your rocks off. Grab a cold one and think it through, buddy. The old days off bagging the big five for a trophy mount are over unless you want to do it bowhunting, imo. I would love to see a dumb mother**ker from Dallas go after a Cape Buffalo with a compound bow.
edit-I would pay to see it.
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A bow and arrow???
Using anything less than a Holland & Holland double rifle, preferably chambered in an obsolete cordite round would be heresy for a shooting fish in a barrel expedition such as this.
I would imagine that a hunt of this nature would have all of the excitement of shooting a cow in a feed lot.
Unless you only wound it, and your professional hunter has to put it down while it's chasing you around, trying to kill you.
Now THAT would be exciting.
Chas
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10-29-2013, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles
Actually, it's the poachers who have driven them close to extinction, not the trophy hunters.
They're a different breed, and if you're not a hunter I doubt that you can understand them at all. They are also staunch conservationists, hence the reason for this safari. They put their money where their mouth is.
Chas
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Very well said. My dad said that once they realized the animals in Africa were disappearing the trophy hunters were the ones who went out rounded up what they could find and got them to the reservations.
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10-29-2013, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles
A bow and arrow???
Using anything less than a Holland & Holland double rifle, preferably chambered in an obsolete cordite round would be heresy for a shooting fish in a barrel expedition such as this.
I would imagine that a hunt of this nature would have all of the excitement of shooting a cow in a feed lot.
Unless you only wound it, and your professional hunter has to put it down while it's chasing you around, trying to kill you.
Now THAT would be exciting.
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Yes, indeedy. I would be betting on the rhino or Cape buffalo turning the lucky tag winner into a red smear in the mud of Namibia.
On a lighter note, I attended a wedding this past weekend at a private venue by the name of Rancho Las Lomas in Silverado, Ca. These folks rescue all manner of animals including a fine specimen of one of the big five. A 600lb Bengal tiger. Turns out Tonka doesn't like men. When I walked up to the cage this big cat started growling and rearing up at me from three feet away. I beat a hasty retreat to the cage where they have a pair of those well behaved white tigers.
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10-29-2013, 06:43 PM
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If I remember correctly from his book, Fred Bear did hunt the big five or most of them with a bow and not some BS pussy compound bow (a rifle more or less in my eyes) but a re curve, as I remember.
Pretty interesting book.....
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10-29-2013, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex E.
If I remember correctly from his book, Fred Bear did hunt the big five or most of them with a bow and not some BS pussy compound bow (a rifle more or less in my eyes) but a re curve, as I remember.
Pretty interesting book.....
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He did indeed. As an avid bowhunter, I can attest to the fact that a well-placed arrow will kill anything a rifle will kill. Anything, from moose to grizzly to rhino or elephant.
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10-30-2013, 11:22 PM
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The only way to save a rare animal is to kill it and stuff it. It will always be there in the living room.
Of course doing what we did with the Bald Eagles is another approach...
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