ACLU FIles Lawsuit over NSA Phone Surveillance

[barbara]

The debate on this issue is amusing.
The same conservatives that are crying foul now are the very ones that supported Bush's illegal wiretapping fiasco.

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[finnbow]

Originally Posted by barbara

The debate on this issue is amusing.
The same conservatives that are crying foul now are the very ones that supported Bush's illegal wiretapping fiasco.

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Similarly, some Dem's that criticized Dubya are circling the wagons for Obama. In either instance, we're working with incomplete information (and the government want it to stay that way).

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by barbara

The debate on this issue is amusing.
The same conservatives that are crying foul now are the very ones that supported Bush's illegal wiretapping fiasco.

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Originally Posted by finnbow

Similarly, some Dem's that criticized Dubya are circling the wagons for Obama. In either instance, we're working with incomplete information (and the government want it to stay that way).

I think it's become confusing to politicians on both sides of the aisle what stance to take. (In order to bouy their own popularity.) Some may genuinely want to protect the constitution, but are afraid they'll be painted as "soft on terrorism", but, then they'll be painted as supporting "Big Brother"......."Uh, oh, I dunno which way to go!"

My guess is the lawsuits will fly for a while, the hearings will continue, there will be much hullabaloo spouted about, then some legislation or "pledge" will appear..........But, behind the scenes, nothing really changes.

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by barbara

The debate on this issue is amusing.
The same conservatives that are crying foul now are the very ones that supported Bush's illegal wiretapping fiasco.

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Who would those be Barb?

This conservative never supported vacuuming up phone records for domestic calls. So, if you're referring to me, please show me a post where I supported this.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Similarly, some Dem's that criticized Dubya are circling the wagons for Obama. In either instance, we're working with incomplete information (and the government want it to stay that way).

Yes, of course. Both sides of the aisle are very familiar with hypocrisy.

[BlueStreak]

Once again, the public is made aware of what it's government is up to and.......................

Meh. Pass the popcorn.

Dave

[piece-itpete]

I bet you're right Dave.

FYI, they built a computer large enough to simulate a nuclear explosion back in Clintons' day.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I bet you're right Dave.

FYI, they built a computer large enough to simulate a nuclear explosion back in Clintons' day.

Pete

And the Patriot Act bears GW Bushs signature.

If we were to halt the NSA from gathering this information, then suffer another 9/11-like event in say, two or three years, I wonder how many of these short-sighted people posting "Obama is Listening" crap all over my FB page would be demanding to know why "Obama" didn't detect it and stop it, before it happened?

My guess is;

Every last one of them.

It's because they are stupid and blinded by their distaste for a single man, Pete.

Dave

[Rajoo]

It is not the ability and store the gathered data I would question, but the ability to decipher any useful information and deter terrorist acts. More gatherers than hunters?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

It is not the ability and store the gathered data I would question, but the ability to decipher any useful information and deter terrorist acts. More gatherers than hunters?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z1
If this guy can be believed? Maybe dozens...