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whell · #**111** 10-09-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

I am using my brain. That's why I disagree with you.

Part of using one's brain is recognizing distinctions. The tea party and the occupy wall street protesters have some common grievances. Their ideas on the ways to resolve those grievances are in many instances diametrically opposed.

What was it - eighth grade when we first started having to answer "compare and contrast" test questions. Go back and look in your eighth grade school books, and learn to recognize that groups can have similarities AND differences.

One can understand a position and at the same time recognize that it is FOS. Believe it or not, not everything in this world is black and white. When we use our brains, we can begin to see the shades of gray.

Regards,

D-Ray

OK, how's this. Saying the "Occupy" crowd have some common grievances with the Tea Bag crowd is like saying the output my dripping bathtub faucet and Niagra Falls have some things in common.

djv8ga · #**112** 10-09-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

OK, how's this. Saying the "Occupy" crowd have some common grievances with the Tea Bag crowd is like saying the output of my garden hose and Niagra Falls have some things in common.

Exactly...delusional dribble!
Hey Finn, are you a chicken who just has to get involved in every Lefty's disagreements?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35uQCtr4EY

merrylander · #**113** 10-09-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

OK, how's this. Saying the "Occupy" crowd have some common grievances with the Tea Bag crowd is like saying the output my dripping bathtub faucet and Niagra Falls have some things in common.

Are you saying the tea baggers are a bunch of drips?

d-ray657 · #**114** 10-09-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

OK, how's this. Saying the "Occupy" crowd have some common grievances with the Tea Bag crowd is like saying the output my dripping bathtub faucet and Niagra Falls have some things in common.

Do you deny that both the tea party movement and the occupy movement take issue with the favored treatment received by wall street during the economic crisis of 2008?

Did not many of the tea party candidates, like the occupy protesters, decry the influence of lobbyists (at least until they started filling their congressional staffs)?

Did you not see, at least at the outset of the tea party movement, an attitude of "a pox on both of your houses" when it came to political parties? Is that not a common attitude among the occupy protesters?

It seems to me that your comment is closer to something that squirts from a bull's arse.

Regards,

D-Ray

finnbow · #**115** 10-09-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

OK, how's this. Saying the "Occupy" crowd have some common grievances with the Tea Bag crowd is like saying the output my dripping bathtub faucet and Niagra Falls have some things in common.

The TP and the OWS take on different sides of the same problem. The TP is critical of the government approving a bank bailout and the OWS is critical of the banks who took said bailout. This is a distinction without a difference, IMHO.

When you consider the revolving door between Goldman Sachs and government, there really is no difference between Wall St. and Washington when it comes to our economic policy. The TP and OWS direct their ire at the same problem, albeit from opposite sides of the political spectrum.

Charles · #**116** 10-09-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

The TP and the OWS take on different sides of the same problem. The TP is critical of the government approving a bank bailout and the OWS is critical of the banks who took said bailout. This is a distinction without a difference, IMHO.

When you consider the revolving door between Goldman Sachs and government, there really is no difference between Wall St. and Washington when it comes to our economic policy. The TP and OWS direct their ire at the same problem, albeit from opposite sides of the political spectrum.

I believe there are some on either side who have correctly identified the problem, the rub lies in correcting the system without crashing it.

That, and the system is the system. It didn't arrive at this point by accident.

Chas

merrylander · #**117** 10-09-2011, 02:24 PM

Maybe if we had some English speaking justices on the SCOTUS they would realize that the First does not legalize bribery.

BlueStreak · #**118** 10-09-2011, 02:35 PM

What good can it possibly do to restrict punishment to the bribed, and let the bribers get off scot-free? Hell, REWARD them for their extortion.

"Oh, you corrupted politicians with bribery and turned the economy into turd stew for your own personal gain? Here, have a hundred million dollar bonus. Please create some jobs,-----But only if you feel like it. We wouldn't dream of pushing you to do anything. It might upset you."

Dave

merrylander · #**119** 10-09-2011, 03:23 PM

Where is Dr. Guillotine when you need him?

whell · #**120** 10-10-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

Do you deny that both the tea party movement and the occupy movement take issue with the favored treatment received by wall street during the economic crisis of 2008?

Tea Party - takes issue with the gov't for interfering in the free market.
Occupy - pissed at Wall Street for causing most of the worlds ills. The bail-out is simply the issue du jour which allows them to propel a leftist agenda.

Pretty big difference to me, particular as is might relate to desired outcomes.

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

Did not many of the tea party candidates, like the occupy protesters, decry the influence of lobbyists (at least until they started filling their congressional staffs)?

I don't see any reference to that here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/..._to_our_f.html

The one quote, however, from the article that jumps out at me is that the Occupy crowd wants: "...fairer distribution of wealth and taxes." I'm sure you'd have trouble finding any Tea Party-er interested in that.

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

Did you not see, at least at the outset of the tea party movement, an attitude of "a pox on both of your houses" when it came to political parties? Is that not a common attitude among the occupy protesters?

OK, I'll concede that one, but only because you don't have to be republican, democrat, Tea Party or Occupy to have that sentiment.