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04-07-2017, 01:23 PM
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What next? Huffpo.
Kremlin: Risk of US-Russia collision in Syria 'significantly increased'
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/07/politi...ike/index.html
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04-07-2017, 05:03 PM
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We always have new wars under a republican president, it's what republican presidents are good at when they need to deflect on their poor choices, poor policies and falling approval ratings. And it's a good return for their campaign doners. I wonder, how would we fare against Russia? The rich, they start the wars, the poor pay for them.
The buffoon didn't think things through.....
"WASHINGTON -- Russia said Friday it was cutting a hotline intended to prevent midair incidents over Syria in response to the U.S. missile attack on a Syrian base. The response demonstrates Moscow’s readiness to defy Washington and could even put the two nuclear superpowers on a course toward military confrontation.
Russia President Vladimir Putin signaled he was ready to risk a clash with the U.S. and abandon hopes for mending ties under President Donald Trump, rather than accept the humiliation of standing by while his ally is bombed."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-a...syria-strikes/
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04-07-2017, 06:01 PM
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What's interesting is that Trump's supporters have stuck with him through all sorts of aberrant behavior, making it appear that there was nothing he could do that they would reject. But the alt-right faction of the base is apoplectic about the Syria attack. I guess neo-Nazis like gassing Arab babies.
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04-07-2017, 06:01 PM
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Sigh...
Syria action? How Vietnam. It's all about the sorties (59 missiles!) and not their impact.
- Meaningless target, they have more.
- They knew we were coming from jump.
- Damage minimized by their foreknowledge.
But hey, fifty-nine missiles! Aren't we badass? And don't pretend we give a shit about the Syrian people. If we did, we'd have invited their recent refugees in with open arms.
But, to get back to Vietnam, in 1975 sailors on the USS Midway threw flying machines off the flight deck into the South China Sea like toys, untold $$$ to clear space, so one overloaded Cessna could try to land with a foreign family in it. (South Vietnamese AF Major Buan-Ly succeeded.)
Trump would shoot the plane down then crow about how tough he is.
Fuck'em.
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04-07-2017, 08:12 PM
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What Politifact glosses over is that Obama cut a politically expedient deal with his BFF Putin to let Russia take the lead with Syria to dispose of their chem weapons. The April 4th attack is a product of that deal. From the Politifact article:
One way or another, subsequent events have proved Kerry wrong.
In fact, international investigators concluded last year that the Syrian government had gamed the system.
So, last year the world knew that Assad still had chem weapons, and no one did anything about it. We knew that Russia failed to keep up their end of the agreement last year, and did nothing. We knew that Assad would likely use those weapons because he's used them before, and we did nothing about it. Obama told Assad and Russia in 2014 that we'd keep the use of force as an option if Assad didn't get rid of those weapons, but we did nothing.
Obama and Kerry look like fools, and IMHO they have blood on their hands.
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04-07-2017, 08:13 PM
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can't defend trump so you deflect to obama...again......
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04-07-2017, 09:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
What Politifact glosses over is that Obama cut a politically expedient deal with his BFF Putin to let Russia take the lead with Syria to dispose of their chem weapons. The April 4th attack is a product of that deal. From the Politifact article:
One way or another, subsequent events have proved Kerry wrong.
In fact, international investigators concluded last year that the Syrian government had gamed the system.
So, last year the world knew that Assad still had chem weapons, and no one did anything about it. We knew that Russia failed to keep up their end of the agreement last year, and did nothing. We knew that Assad would likely use those weapons because he's used them before, and we did nothing about it. Obama told Assad and Russia in 2014 that we'd keep the use of force as an option if Assad didn't get rid of those weapons, but we did nothing.
Obama and Kerry look like fools, and IMHO they have blood on their hands.
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Spewing bullshit as usual. Obama asked for approval from the congress which was controlled the Party of No, and they said NO. And now you are blaming Obama and Kerry.
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In 2013, when a sarin nerve gas attack left more than 1,400 dead outside Damascus, President Barack Obama went to Congress to get approval to strike.
In a whip count from ThinkProgress, 183 Republicans were against bombing the country. Only 12 Republicans, including then-House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), sided with the president to launch a strike. Ultimately, Congress did not appear to approve the strike, with 243 Congressional members swaying towards voting “No.” Obama ultimately decided to postpone the vote.
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can't defend trump so you deflect to obama...again......
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What do you expect, the GOP has a multitude of puppet masters and one never knows which one is pulling the strings. So blaming Obama is a hedge tactic.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b051b9a9da355d
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04-07-2017, 09:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
What Politifact glosses over is that Obama cut a politically expedient deal with his BFF Putin to let Russia take the lead with Syria to dispose of their chem weapons. The April 4th attack is a product of that deal. From the Politifact article:
One way or another, subsequent events have proved Kerry wrong.
In fact, international investigators concluded last year that the Syrian government had gamed the system....
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Blaming Obama for Putin and Assad concealing some of their weapons? Had Obama launched 59 missiles 4 years ago, it's highly doubtful he would have destroyed as much poison gas as was removed under the agreement. Put blame where it belongs, Whell.
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04-07-2017, 11:23 PM
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The same person less then a week ago seemingly on the ropes, having many negative issues daily. Trouble for us to keep up with at times. Seemingly a never ending, new one coming out showing the ineptitude, out of his league, having to learn on the job. Must I go on......
Now after a few missiles with little thought before he is now presidential????
If the role were to reversed and this was HRC one could only imagine the conspiracies on the real reasons for the attack.
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