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Old 11-26-2013, 12:46 PM
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Frank Zappa on Politics

FRANK ZAPPA -

"Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex."

"Democracy is one of those things that looks good on paper, but we've come to a crossroads in contemporary America where we really ought to decide, Do we *want* it? When you have a preponderance of people in this country who will willingly accept censorship- in fact, *ask* for it, *demand* it in the case of the Gulf War- you've got a problem. Asked random questions about the First Amendment and how they would like to have it applied, if you believe in polls at all, the average American wants no part of it. But if you ask, "What if we threw the Constitution away tomorrow?" the answer is "No, that would be bad!" But living under the Constitution is another story altogether. I've come to the conclusion that there's only one party in this country and it's divided into two parts: Republicans and Republican wannabes. Republicans stand for evil, corruption, manipulation, greed- everything that Americans think is okay after being conditioned to it during the eighties. Republicans stand for all the values that Americans now hold dear. Plus they have more balloons than God, and for a nation raised on cartoons, that tells you something. Anybody with balloons, they're okay. They don't tell you what kind of crippled people had to blow those suckers up. The Democrats have no agenda, and when they speak on any topic, they want to sound as Republican as possible while still finding a way to retain the pork. I'll be blunt with you: I'm considering running for president as a nonpartisan candidate because I am sick to death of this stuff. The "news bath" is not a warming experience; it makes me deranged for four or five hours a day. On a show for Bill Moyers called "The Class of the Twentieth Century" I said that the faces that really belong on Mount Rushmore are J. Edgar Hoover and Joseph McCarthy and Walter Winchell and Hedda Hopper and maybe even Roy Cohn and Michael Milken, because
they've had the greatest impact on American society. They have shaped the way things are done in this country. One of the problems with the world in which we live is that people have become accustomed to lies upon lies upon lies............"

I really miss that guy.

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Old 11-26-2013, 06:01 PM
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Frank sure had a way with words.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:58 PM
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He was spot on with the role of the media too. From the "Absolutely Free" album-


I'm The Slime
I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I am the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I am the slime oozin' out
From your TV set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help...no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks..
Don't touch that dial

Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin'room floor

I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:35 PM
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Wow!

Profound stuff.

And he's been dead for 20 years.

A lot has changed since then.

Most of it for the worse.
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Old 11-27-2013, 03:48 PM
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BTW, he was a capitalist and shrewd businessman who believed we needed to get back to original constitutional concepts.
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But, not in the style you think.

In fact;

"They got lies so big
They don't make a noise
They tell 'em so well
Like a secret disease
That makes you go numb

With a big ol' lie
And a flag and a pie
And a mom and a bible
Most folks are just liable
To buy any line
Any place, any time

When the lie's so big
As in Robertson's case,
(That sinister face
Behind all the Jesus hurrah)

Could result in the end
To a worrisome trend
In which every American
Not "born again"
Could be punished in cruel and unusual ways
By this treacherous cretin
Who tells everyone
That he's Jesus' best friend

When the lies get so big
And the fog gets so thick
And the facts disappear
The Republican Trick
Can be played out again
People, please tell me when
We'll be rid of these men!

Just who do they really
Suppose that they are?
And how do they manage to travel as far
As they seem to have come?
Were we really that dumb?

People, wake up
Figure it out
Religious fanatics
Around and about
The Court House, The State House,
The Congress, The White House

Criminal saints
With a "Heavenly Mission" -
A nation enraptured
By pure superstition

Do you believe in the Invisible Army?
(Yes, indeed!)

When the lie's so big
And the fog so thick
And the facts kept forgotten
Then the Republican Trick
(Ketchup is a vegetable!)
Can be played out again
People, please tell me when
We'll be rid of these men!"



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Old 11-29-2013, 05:17 AM
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I'm a Capitalist who would like to see America get back to constitutional principles too. I just believe the Republican Party and its brainwashed sycophants are the absolute WORST people to lead us there. The only that could POSSIBLY be worse for the constitution than the Democratic Party is the GOP.

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I turned on FoxNews the other day, just to see if they were still at it. Yep, of course they are. Constantly bitching about the "mainstream media" as if they aren't a part of it. And, of course anyone who doesn't agree with them is either lying, or hates and/or is out to destroy America, blah, blah, blah......................

When in the hell are you going to learn to see through all of this bullshit?

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I turned on FoxNews the other day, just to see if they were still at it. Yep, of course they are. Constantly bitching about the "mainstream media" as if they aren't a part of it. And, of course anyone who doesn't agree with them is either lying, or hates and/or is out to destroy America, blah, blah, blah......................

When in the hell are you going to learn to see through all of this bullshit?

Dave
Fox news is basically the same thing as the Telescreen was in Orwell's 1984.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:30 AM
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Fox news is basically the same thing as the Telescreen was in Orwell's 1984.
At work, the facility manager hung a screen in the breakroom permanently tuned to FoxNews. People complained, until he changed the channel. It only lasted a day and it was changed back. Anyhow, the arguing and bickering kept up until someone broke into the cabinet and sabotaged the damn thing. Finally, the plant manager told him to just take it down and forget about it.

This guys determination to keep the t.v. up and tuned to Fox was, at first, amusing.
But, at the final stage of his insanity, he showed a face that made some of us wonder if we were going to end up as breaking news in the "Situation Room".............. It's no wonder some people act as if having Obama in the Whitehouse is the end of the world, if they truly are as eaten up with rightwing propaganda as that guy.

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