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02-15-2016, 11:05 AM
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He had the guts to pull the trigger on the probability of where to find Bin Laden and to take him out.
That was huge!
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02-15-2016, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
I'm not looking at polls. I'm looking at Obama's record. He's weak and I'm sick of being disappointed by him. I don't feel like signing a petition that I know won't do any good. That puts me in the position of begging a weakling to do something that I know good and well he hasn't got the stones to do.
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"My way or the Highway", is there a country song with that title? I bet you could find us a YouTube video.
I am convinced that this decision will have far reaching ramifications, for his Presidency, the party and the upcoming elections, and the SCOTUS. After all it is a lifetime appointment. So with the petition, we are helping to ease the decision making process.
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02-15-2016, 11:07 AM
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Took care of Scalia?
According to what I've read Scalia was 5 foot 7 inches tall, and just looking at him, I say he weighed in close to 300 lbs. And he was going to turn 80 next month. It's amazing that fat little Guinea lasted as long as he did before dying of a heart attack.
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02-15-2016, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
He's definitely got the stones to do it, particularly in his last year when he has no more f*cks to give. OTOH, I think the Democrats are strategizing as to what strategy will play best in the upcoming election. If they think this will help them win the election, it's a win-win. If they play their cards right, they win the Presidency, possibly the Senate and then would be able to appoint a justice more liberal than they otherwise could.
At this point in DC, everything being done by anybody (including the GOP in this instance) is with an eye on the November election.
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This too, it is a blessing this "how conservative can you be" is when it comes to elections on a national level.
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02-15-2016, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlV
He had the guts to pull the trigger on the probability of where to find Bin Laden and to take him out.
That was huge!
Carl
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Do you really think we've been told the whole story on that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3COsYaJ47o
What I do know is that he caved to the Insurance companies, the Drug companies, and the Republicans on Health Care, which is why we're stuck with that abortion known as Obamacare instead of Medicare for all.
In 2008 we elected him President and gave him majorities in both houses of congress. And he managed to squander that plus we lost about a dozen state house and legislatures to boot.
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02-15-2016, 11:16 AM
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He may have tried harder than he should have in reaching across the aisle, letting the goppers kick sand in his face.
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02-15-2016, 11:21 AM
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Let's say Obama does make an recess appointment. McConnell & Co. go berserk, challenge the constitutionality and the case goes to the Supreme Court. The newly appointed justice must be recused and the vote is a tie. This could get pretty ugly and totally disrupt the upcoming elections. We could be looking at a serious political divide unlike say, Obamacare. A single person or an entity can turn the country upside down.
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02-15-2016, 11:26 AM
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Let's say Obama does make an recess appointment. McConnell & Co. go berserk, challenge the constitutionality and the case goes to the Supreme Court. The newly appointed justice must be recused and the vote is a tie. This could get pretty ugly and totally disrupt the upcoming elections. We could be looking at a serious political divide unlike say, Obamacare. A single person or an entity can turn the country upside down.
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I guess thats as good an excuse as any for Obama to fold with the winning hand he has been delt.
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02-15-2016, 11:37 AM
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Obama may be playing the long game again...pick someone so popular and likeable that an unbalanced opposition by the GOP makes them looks so bad before the election that the Dems win or the GOP simply capitulates and gives him the ratification.
Although if I was Obama I would put a real progressive or someone like Holder in right now, and gamble that the Dems win, and his nominee eventually gets ratified two years later. That is the longer game and that is what I would do if I was him.
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02-15-2016, 11:38 AM
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Now this looks like a good play.
I would cut Obama some slack on passing up the recess appointment if he makes this one.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-nominee.html
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The GOP’s Worst Nightmare SCOTUS Nominee
Tino Cuellar. California judge. Mexican-American. Harvard. Yale. Stanford. How many Latino votes you think the GOP’d get if they block him?
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