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05-09-2012, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
When has big government hurt you? I can see if you were drafted and send to Vietnam how you might be angry...being a military man I can understand that. How has the Tennesee Valley Authority, Interstate Highway System, Medicare (and the medical establishment it underwrites) and Social Security hurt you? NASA hurt you? GI Bill bad?
School Loans bad? You know somebody paid taxes for you go to public (GOVERNMENT) school so someday you would be able to reply to internet posts lol. What do you want?
Some small government paradise where you get to keep all of your paycheck?
what is it you want? Pete I am just dying to here what small government means....
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It seems to me that conservatives (even ultra-right teabagger types) want all the services of a big government (Social Security, Medicare, National Defense, good roads...) They just don't want to pay for it.
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05-09-2012, 04:37 PM
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Area Man
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Originally Posted by finnbow
It seems to me that conservatives (even ultra-right teabagger types) want all the services of a big government (Social Security, Medicare, National Defense, good roads...) They just don't want to pay for it.
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Well, it's just like everything else, Pat. Rightwingers always fancy themselves to have "earned" whatever they've embezzled and the rest of the world is just a bunch of parasites, living on their dime. But, you're an observant guy. I'm sure you've noticed that.
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05-09-2012, 05:58 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
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Originally Posted by finnbow
It seems to me that conservatives (even ultra-right teabagger types) want all the services of a big government (Social Security, Medicare, National Defense, good roads...) They just don't want to pay for it.
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I have to resist the urge to run em off the freeway here in Socal. How dare they use any interstate and lobby to not pay for it. Local control my ass...
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05-09-2012, 09:17 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: May 2009
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Originally Posted by icenine
When has big government hurt you? I can see if you were drafted and send to Vietnam how you might be angry...being a military man I can understand that. How has the Tennesee Valley Authority, Interstate Highway System, Medicare (and the medical establishment it underwrites) and Social Security hurt you? NASA hurt you? GI Bill bad?
School Loans bad? You know somebody paid taxes for you go to public (GOVERNMENT) school so someday you would be able to reply to internet posts lol. What do you want?
Some small government paradise where you get to keep all of your paycheck?
what is it you want? Pete I am just dying to here what small government means....
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Can't speak for Pete, but I have certain worries about a government which has grown so large that it is reduced to funding it's operations with deficit spending to such an extent that it is quite possible that it will destroy the currency.
A government so big that it has created myriad regulations which have caused the private sector becomes so uncompetitive that they are reduced to moving their operations offshore.
A government which which has reached the point of largess that is can use it's devalued currency to enforce it's will on everyone, by first creating an atmosphere where the states can no longer function without federal funding, and then denying that funding unless they dance to the tune of their federal masters.
A government which has reached the size that it no longer serves the people, but rather the people serve it.
I think we could do with a little less government, and for sure a smarter and less corrupt government.
Chas
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05-09-2012, 11:38 PM
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Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
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Just imagine if Obama had let the Big Three go.. the Ford, GM and Chrysler trademarks would be held by companies that had no relationship to the original organizations just like the marques of Sansui,KLH and Akai are held today by businesses with no ties to the original products. Imagine ersatz cars being sold in China with the GM logo on them NOT made by GM but a Chinese car company. Imagine Obama running with that baggage. Oh he lost the big three would be the Tea Bagger mantra.
You know there is something wrong with anyone who wants the Big Three to go down...that is just not patriotic in any way if you ask me.
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05-10-2012, 10:57 AM
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Really, Mike? FDRs actions brought about employer provided healthcare?
I thought angelic, do-gooder corporate executives went about on prancing unicorns throwing fat paychecks and expensive bennies at everyone out of love for their underlings and the goodness of their hearts?
Boy, am I disillusioned.
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05-10-2012, 11:26 AM
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Boy, am I disillusioned.
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No doubt about it.
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05-10-2012, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Really, Mike? FDRs actions brought about employer provided healthcare?
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By the way, I knew that sentence would bug you!
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05-10-2012, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
No doubt about it.
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Originally Posted by whell
By the way, I knew that sentence would bug you!
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Sarcasm. Bug me? Nope. You made a statement of fact.
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05-10-2012, 11:44 PM
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Thanks Finnbow .......the ability to buy a house on credit is the American Dream. I do not think any American wants that to do disappear....one has to remember this when people complain about bailouts....
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