"Ted Cruz’s ‘biggest lie in politics:’ Is it actually the truth?"

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Your about the only one with a logical view posting here. You have seen my point a few times in the self proclaimed fact checker, and trying to equate data to different times and use data for untended use.

Ok we know Glenn Kessler is severely Bias.

He took a report that was done looking at demographics, socioeconomic status.
(Nothing to do with Party affiliations) Census Bureau stats.

That report was converted further by a writer trying to equate it to parties in the white house.

Then Glenn Kessler produced some bogus graphs and colored them red and blue with no dates, no presidents and not even enough bars to cover the time span. Well they did have enough bars because it was census data, every ten years. Absolutely nothing to do with the office of the presidency and who sits in it.




Don't forget in looking at this chart and your comment about Bush.

Clinton is the one that put NAFTA in place, taxed manufacturing out of this country. And he pushed the policies for the housing bubble. Bush inherited the Dot Com Bubble,Finical Crises, Housing Bubble. He inherited the lacks approach to terrorism by Clinton.

Looking at the graph it's as clear as day and popped out to you. Damn near the moment he took office the economic policies that Clinton put in place fell apart. Actually Dot Com had popped before he took office then the economy fell further after 911. That pushed us into two wars and the Finical Crises, Housing Bubble popped.

So to say those economic policies were Bush's doing is not accurate. Bush got a lot dumped on his plate that was none of his doing.

To be precise I have not said it is wholly his doing. All I have stated is that it happened during his time.

I accept your observation that Clinton sold us to NAFTA despite Ross Perot's
warning.

However you have to admit Bush exacerbated the situation by his huge reduction of taxes to the rich under the mistaken assumption that they would invest this windfall in the US (they did otherwise) and the pursuit of an expensive war without a tax for it.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

However you have to admit Bush exacerbated the situation by his huge reduction of taxes to the rich under the mistaken assumption that they would invest this windfall in the US......

I think you're letting Shrub off pretty easy here. I don't for a minute believe that he expected anything other than what we got. That was the plan. What he told us was a lie, pure and simple.

John

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

To be precise I have not said it is wholly his doing. All I have stated is that it happened during his time.

I accept your observation that Clinton sold us to NAFTA despite Ross Perot's
warning.

However you have to admit Bush exacerbated the situation by his huge reduction of taxes to the rich under the mistaken assumption that they would invest this windfall in the US (they did otherwise) and the pursuit of an expensive war without a tax for it.

I agree there is good and bad in every move the government does with the economy.

Some manufacturing stayed because of the tax brakes, some looked at the profits made operating overseas.

I also know the less taxes I had, I spent into the economy.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Damn!

GW years were a disaster for manufacturing jobs.

Yeah, who knew?

John

[d-ray657]

My tolerance for BS has been exceeded:

This message is hidden because 4-2-7 is on your ignore list.

Pete,

I apologize for dumping moderation responsibilities for this poster in your lap. But just like constant exposure to good writing can improve one's own writing skills, constant exposure to the above is likely to cause brain damage.

Regards,

D-Ray

[bobabode]

Sounds good to me.

This message is hidden because -5 is on my eff off list

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Sounds good to me.

This message is hidden because -5 is on my eff off list

A liberal website that caters to the advancement of propaganda.

Absolutely nothing to do with Political Chat.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

My tolerance for BS has been exceeded:

This message is hidden because 4-2-7 is on your ignore list.

Pete,

I apologize for dumping moderation responsibilities for this poster in your lap. But just like constant exposure to good writing can improve one's own writing skills, constant exposure to the above is likely to cause brain damage.

Regards,

D-Ray

All just because we disagree with far different views. And you will then in turn blame Congress and the Senate for not working together.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

My tolerance for BS has been exceeded:

This message is hidden because 4-2-7 is on your ignore list.

Regards,

D-Ray

I'm in. I've had enough.

John

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'm in. I've had enough.

John

Me too, I have taken my parting shot and my decoder ring does not seem to help in translating it any more.