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Oerets 04-30-2022 05:41 AM

Rise of the Nazis......
 
Started last year with the first season. Three episodes then three more in April of 2022.

Parallels, mirrors current events to a scary degree.

For those who enjoy a in depth look into this time and people, a must see.


https://www.pbs.org/video/fascist-ga...ection-i7dcmf/


https://proxy.pbs.org/show/rise-nazis/

Pio1980 04-30-2022 11:23 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victory_of_Faith
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_Will

Pio1980 12-15-2022 04:19 PM

Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra
Sitting members of Congress aiding and abetting a plot to overthrow the government.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra

Oerets 12-15-2022 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 414034)
Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra
Sitting members of Congress aiding and abetting a plot to overthrow the government.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra

Spielberg’s Amblin Entertainment Optioned it for production.


https://deadline.com/2022/12/steven-...235198312/amp/

donquixote99 12-15-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 414036)
Spielberg’s Amblin Entertainment Optioned it for production.


https://deadline.com/2022/12/steven-...235198312/amp/

Too bad; I see it more as a Lucas sort of thing....

Chicks 12-15-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 414034)
Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra
Sitting members of Congress aiding and abetting a plot to overthrow the government.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra

Heard about this today on Fresh Air.

The big difference between the powerful far-Reich nazi sympathizers then and now is that voters back then trusted the media, and voted these peckerheads out of office, to a man.

Today, we have millions of Whells, their heads filled with garbage by Reich-wingnut media, who see the legitimate media as "the enemy". Whell and his idiot comrades will keep these evildoers in office, voting for them again and again, as they are convinced these nazis are not evil.

bobabode 04-18-2023 03:15 PM

Tomorrow is the 80th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Nazis and their sympathizers can go fuck themselves.

signed a son of a 10th Armored 'Tiger', 3rd Army '42 to '45 Bronze Star

Metz, Ardennes, Rhineland, Oberammergau, Austria.

Liberating unit at Landsberg (Dachau)

donquixote99 04-18-2023 03:17 PM

My dad was with a tank outfit too. Did what it took, which was a hell of a lot. Best time to stop NAZIs is right now.

bobabode 04-18-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 417609)
My dad was with a tank outfit too. Did what it took, which was a hell of a lot. Best time to stop NAZIs is right now.

We're lucky they made it back, Don. The 10th suffered a 74% casualty rate by the end of it all. They were the first armored unit shipped straight to France. Two weeks later they were part of the 'Reduction of Metz', a stronghold that hadn't been taken since to Roman legions built it 1500 years ago. Dad was the most popular guy at division HQ, he was a mailman.

donquixote99 04-18-2023 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 417611)
We're lucky they made it back, Don. The 10th suffered a 74% casualty rate by the end of it all. They were the first armored unit shipped straight to France. Two weeks later they were part of the 'Reduction of Metz', a stronghold that hadn't been taken since to Roman legions built it 1500 years ago. Dad was the most popular guy at division HQ, he was a mailman.

Oh, mail was the social media of the time, and absolutely vital. My dad and my mom actually met by mail! My dad fixed tank radios and wiring. Wasn't tank crew, but he saw plenty of what happened inside those things.... The guys who lived wound up bonded as tight as anything. His battalion had reunions right up until they were about all gone.

finnbow 04-18-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 417611)
We're lucky they made it back, Don. The 10th suffered a 74% casualty rate by the end of it all. They were the first armored unit shipped straight to France. Two weeks later they were part of the 'Reduction of Metz', a stronghold that hadn't been taken since to Roman legions built it 1500 years ago. Dad was the most popular guy at division HQ, he was a mailman.

My dad was a medic in McArthur's New Guinea campaign. We still have dozens of Victory Mail letters he and my Mom exchanged during the war. We even have the letter by which they got engaged and him telling her where to go with her mother to pick out a ring.

My Dad was 30 years old, working full-time and going to Georgetown U. at night, when the war broke out. At his draft physical, the doctor said "Mr. Finn, you won't be drafted until Hitler comes goose-stepping down Rockville Pike" because of poor eyesight (he wore thick glasses). He was drafted 3 months later and was trained to be a medic. His brother was drafted and served in North Africa, Sicily and Anzio.

bobabode 04-18-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 417622)
My dad was a medic in McArthur's New Guinea campaign. We still have dozens of Victory Mail letters he and my Mom exchanged during the war. We even have the letter by which they got engaged and him telling her where to go with her mother to pick out a ring.

My Dad was 30 years old, working full-time and going to Georgetown U. at night, when the war broke out. At his draft physical, the doctor said "Mr. Finn, you won't be drafted until Hitler comes goose-stepping down Rockville Pike" because of poor eyesight (he wore thick glasses). He was drafted 3 months later and was trained to be a medic. His brother was drafted and served in North Africa, Sicily and Anzio.

Some of the toughest duty there was, was in New Guinea, Finn. Hat's off to your old man.

My dad hotfooted it down to a Naval recruitment office shortly after Pearl Harbor. He so wanted to fly against Tojo, only to find out that he was colorblind. Mom says that it was the only time she saw him break down and cry.

The draft board decided he would be with the ground pounders fighting under some general from Pasadena, Ca. name of George Patton.

Gen. Patton basically stole the 10th AD from Patch Adams' 1st Army (maybe 7th?). As a ploy to hold onto them he kept the division at the spearpoint of his army. That way Ike couldn't snatch them back. Then Bastogne happened.

I still have his Nazi dress dagger war trophy and a copy of the bust of a Roma Maid from a bridge across the Rhine at Trier that Rome's 10th Legion built way, waaay back in the day. IIRC that was the last bridge that the Nazi's had primed to blow but they getting drunk at a local Ratskeller instead of manning their assigned position. Imagine their surprise when some dog faced pony soldiers showed up at their door. (grin)

finnbow 04-18-2023 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 417627)
I still have his Nazi dress dagger war trophy and a copy of the bust of a Roma Maid from a bridge across the Rhine at Trier that Rome's 10th Legion built way, waaay back in the day. IIRC that was the last bridge that the Nazi's had primed to blow but they getting drunk at a local Ratskeller instead of manning their assigned position. Imagine their surprise when some dog faced pony soldiers showed up at their door. (grin)

When I was a kid living in Germany in the early 60's, my school buddies and I collected all sorts of Nazi memorabilia. We traded shit as if it were baseball cards. I have no idea what happened with it. I think my folks allowed me to collect it with my buddies while we were there (we used to play army in bombed-out pillboxes, bunkers and airplane hangars), but trashed it during the move back to the States. I still do have a huge collection of Third Reich (and earlier) postage stamps stashed away somewhere.

Pio1980 04-18-2023 07:42 PM

Father was @ New Guinea, repairing Higgins boats for the island hops.

donquixote99 04-19-2023 07:41 AM

Just saw a thing that said in 80 years, society forgets even big things that happened. We're hitting that for WWII. It shows.

BigElCat 04-19-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 417666)
Just saw a thing that said in 80 years, society forgets even big things that happened. We're hitting that for WWII. It shows.

A core group of the Nazis were employed by the USA after the war, to further advances in science. Their spy group was taken to Eygpt to further US interests in the Cold War.

Methodologies evolved within the intelligence communities based on Gehlen's practices.

Ike Bana 04-23-2023 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 417695)
A core group of the Nazis were employed by the USA after the war, to further advances in science. Their spy group was taken to Eygpt to further US interests in the Cold War.

Methodologies evolved within the intelligence communities based on Gehlen's practices.


Tom Lehrer: Werner von Braun


Once the rockets are up
Who cares where they come down
That's not my department
Says Werner von Braun

Some have harsh words for this man of renown
But some think our attitude should be one of gratitude
Like the widows and cripples in old London Town
Who owe their large pensions to Werner von Braun

Ike Bana 04-23-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 417608)
Tomorrow is the 80th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Nazis and their sympathizers can go fuck themselves.

Of course whell and the rest of his ilk will deny that they are nazi sympathizers.

I take this opportunity to once again reccomend...

https://images.newindianexpress.com/...,_but_what.jpg

Trump's 2016 political advisors, Bannon, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Stone, Jason Miller, put together a plan straight out of the Mussolini playbook. Trump is not intelligent enough or interested in history enough to formulate anything on his own.

finnbow 04-23-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 417932)
Trump's 2016 political advisors, Bannon, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Stone, Jason Miller, (he's not intelligent enough or interested in history enough to formulate anything on his own), put together a plan straight out of the Mussolini playbook.

Trump hasn't hidden his fascist agenda for his next term. Indeed, he's running on it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...policies-2024/

BigElCat 04-23-2023 12:44 PM

FWIW

In 1987, at the height of Iran / Contra / Cocaine scandal, I graduate with a BS degree in Psychology with an interest in Criminology. I was also a heavy pot smoker, and on a lark, I walked into the campus CIA recuitment office.

The Recruitment Officer stated that if I had already been accepted to any Law Enforcement Academy in the CONUS, the CIA was willing to offer me a job, based on my grades and college training. She said that if I had not yet applied to any Law Enforcement academy, the CIA could help me procure an appointment.

My thought was, Wow Man, I don't want to be a cop. I did not occur to me that was against the rules; the CIA operating in the CONUS.

That what we're up against.

(((Sending the Nazi spy apparatus to Eygpt after WW2 shaped middle east politics to an extreme, and the cold war in general))....edit..not sure why I threw this extraneous factoid in here.

wrat 10-13-2023 03:43 PM

the nazi's never went away they have just been emboldened as of late

bobabode 10-13-2023 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wrat (Post 425209)
the nazi's never went away they have just been emboldened as of late

Funny how reichwingers think they're the real badasses in the neighborhood. This former roofer/shingler begs to differ.

Pio1980 10-13-2023 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wrat (Post 425209)
the nazi's never went away they have just been emboldened as of late

Emboldened to shout the quiet bits.

Dondilion 10-13-2023 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wrat (Post 425209)
the nazi's never went away they have just been emboldened as of late

Are you referring to the "capture" of the Canadian parliament?

bobabode 10-13-2023 08:10 PM

Almost fell over rolling my eyes, D. (grin)

RickeyM 10-14-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 425225)
Are you referring to the "capture" of the Canadian parliament?

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 425228)
Almost fell over rolling my eyes, D. (grin)

NAZI's captured Canada?
(me being sarcastic, but I agree about this part)

Quote:

the nazi's never went away they have just been emboldened as of late

Pio1980 10-14-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 425225)
Are you referring to the "capture" of the Canadian parliament?

Canada has a long way to match Moscow and the RF for resuscitating Nazism as a modus operandi.
We can however thank Putin's paranoid autocratic approach for eliminating the rival obviously worse as a successor.

Pio1980 01-22-2024 08:39 PM

The Plot Against Democracy: ‘Nazi Town, USA’ Explores Homegrown Fascism’s Forerunners
https://progressive.org/latest/nazi-...pell-20240119/

BigElCat 01-26-2024 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 427424)
The Plot Against Democracy: ‘Nazi Town, USA’ Explores Homegrown Fascism’s Forerunners
https://progressive.org/latest/nazi-...pell-20240119/

In my opinion, Hitler's rise to power was orchestrated by Biblical "Powers and Principalities". The same Powers and Principalities are bringing Donald Trump to power.

Oerets 01-27-2024 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 427424)
The Plot Against Democracy: ‘Nazi Town, USA’ Explores Homegrown Fascism’s Forerunners
https://progressive.org/latest/nazi-...pell-20240119/

Watched it last week. Telling at that time in this country, the arresting charging conviction of it's main leaders broke it's back.


""The Bund collapsed shortly after the rally, when Kuhn was found guilty of embezzlement and tax evasion. Though its heyday is largely forgotten today, Yost hopes that this documentary will help serve as a reminder and a wakeup call about the precarious nature of democracy.""

https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-pb...s-us-admirers/

BigElCat 01-27-2024 12:23 PM

During the same era in which the Bund 'rose up', Smedley Butler reported to congress that he had been approached by a representative of American Industrialists and Wall Street Bankers.

He claimed that they wanted him to become the Fascist ruler of the USA by means of military coup. Smedley reported that he 'traced the tree' of people behind the representative, and made allegations against Irene Dupont, and IIRC JP Morgan, and was it Chase Manhattan (?)

They just sued Butler for slander, made a laughing stock out of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgNOOWStiI

Pio1980 01-27-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat (Post 427532)
During the same era in which the Bund 'rose up', Smedley Butler reported to congress that he had been approached by a representative of American Industrialists and Wall Street Bankers.

He claimed that they wanted him to become the Fascist ruler of the USA by means of military coup. Smedley reported that he 'traced the tree' of people behind the representative, and made allegations against Irene Dupont, and IIRC JP Morgan, and was it Chase Manhattan (?)

They just sued Butler for slander, made a laughing stock out of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgNOOWStiI

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

BigElCat 01-27-2024 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 427533)

WIKI doesn't even begin to describe the over-throw of Nicaragua.

"Use a little too much dynamite there, Butch"-movie quote

At least it brought about a quick surrender.


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