Another Mass Shooting in the Good Ol' USA
 

14 students, 1 teacher killed in Texas elementary school shooting

In the good ol' US of A where the Repubs consistently oppose any and all gun control and offer no solutions to the problem. No other country in the civilized world has mass shootings like we do here. America first right?
FWIW is wasn't an immigrant that illegally crossed the border.

Repubes will offer nothing but their usual "thoughts and prayers", then continue to wallow in money from the gun industry. :mad:

Fourteen kids and a teacher dead. When will we learn?

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1819576527

:cool:NRA/ GOP scheduled delivery.

Not much we can expect from this nation ran by lovers of guns. Willing to sacrifice their young to the all mighty.....of......the gun!

An evil one so seductive and giving a feeling of power. Yet the opposite is the truth.

I've already had someone elsewhere on the web give me a "whatabout the violence in Democrat cities", SMH.

The Texas Attorney General is insisting upon arming teachers. Mind you that these very same teachers, whose unions are communist and who cannot be trusted to refrain from grooming our children to lives of sexual debauchery and hatred of America and white people, should be better armed. Fucking idiots.

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Let me remind you, that it was one lone Texas Border Patrol Officer than ran into 'the line of fire', used a (dare I say it) gun and killed the guy that went off his rocker.

That person is a True American Hero.

And Rickey "when will we ever learn", learn WHAT ?

My bad, that was Bob.

Bye Bye.

Armed teachers would just be the first target of any shooter. Paraphrasing something I heard among todays coverage of the shooting. About the more guns would make us safer nonsense. Texas has more guns than every other state and it didn't help today did it?

Well it's another case of our 2nd amendment at work, Ms. Boebert. Waiting for the gut wrenching plea for "thoughts and prayers" from the right.

Since this latest massacre of six and seven year olds, I've seen it asked here and there around the internet "what is this country coming to?" We know good and goddamn well why our country is coming to this. And it's not about mental illness as the cons continue to want to peg it. There are just as many crazy people per capita in the UK as we have. And our firearms homicide rate is 40 times the rate in the UK. 40 FUCKING TIMES. After their first mass school shooting in Dunblane Scotland in 1996, it took the Brits a year to outlaw possession of anything but long barreled, non-automatic hunting rifles and shotguns. And now our gun homicide rate is 40 times theirs.

It came to this when we didn't do jack shit after Charles Whitman shot up the University of Texas in 1966, or when we didn't do jack shit after Columbine for christ's sake.

If more guns make us safer why to we have to give little kids active shooter drills? Just asking for a friend. Of course the Repubs will trot out the usual excuses and deflections. It's automatic with them. With so many mass shootings in the good ol' U.S. of A they've had lots and lots of practice.

IMO if you've taken money from the NRA you're compromised. This goes for ANY politician.

This country already many times over is the most heavily armed per person. Also is the leader in school shootings. I heard last night on TV, that the number one cause of death for children is gun violence in our country also.

So once again the answer is the same more guns?


I say time for a different approach.

After expecting more of the same from the NRA's representatives in Congress one voice stood above the others.

GOP Rep. Paul Gosar spread a baseless transphobic rumor that the Uvalde school shooting suspect was a 'transsexual leftist illegal alien'

Count Gosar, whose own family says should be booted from office, among those Repubs who just need to STFU but don't know how.

Our totally irrational irrespon$ible policy of providing unlimited free access to ma$$ produced firearm$ with virtually no accountability has everything to do with the pu$h to defend our $acred right to provide vulnerable moving target$ in public $hooting gallerie$ for well-armed deranged homical person$ under their $econd amendment privilege.
Oh, and Ted Nugent gets to have machine gun$ and Wayne La Pierre get$ more bespoke zoot suit$ and private luxury jetliner$. Follow the money.

Greg Abbott @GregAbbott_TX
Governor candidate, TX

I'm EMBARRASSED: Texas #2 in nation for new gun purchases, behind CALIFORNIA. Let's pick up the pace Texans. @NRA

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Texas request to buy guns tops 1 million for year

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"We can't have them God hatin' Commies with more guns than us now can we?"

Was the shooters gun legal?

The two milspec long guns he bought were legal. Don't know about the handgun.

Why is or better yet the reason for the ability to purchase body armor?????

WTF!


You know by the time a shooter shows up to kill somewhere, it is already to late anyway.


The gun loving and playing with toys crowd will talk a lot. In the end it comes down to ...... don't take my toys away. Little caring for others...

Typical for right learners and selfish pricks.....

No mention of mods or extended mag, Texas isn't big on firearm accountability but might make exceptions if you are the "wrong sort" (wink, nod).

Georgia candidate's 'Jesus Guns Babies' tagline is a Christian nationalist parody — but it's real

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...tion-rcna30331

And, right on schedule, the usual suspects spout the stupid shit.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-...oter-rcna30511

The rate in El Salvador is 400 Fucking Times higher than the UK.

They move here because it's peaceful.

Maybe y'all should move.

You first, tough guy.

Is that the new excuse? "Well, were not as bad as El Salvador :o ".

What legislation would have stopped this shooting?

A ban on gun ownership by civilians.

Well you asked.

As Abbot and other republicans laud law enforcement for their quick response...
 

Further details revealed that police waited outside the school for forty minutes or more before entering the building despite pleas from onlookers outside.

Desperate onlookers urged police to charge into the school where their children were trapped. Instead, police massed outside the building for 40 minutes and waited.
Once inside it seems police were stymied by a locked door.

An answer in the specific is difficult to impossible for a determined assailant.
Maybe a better question would be,
"What legislation could impede mass shootings like these?"

Fwiw;
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...pend-rcna30557

Meanwhile, passing draconian abortion prohibition is not a problem for "pro-life" hypocrites.

Love it or leave, eh Spiro???:rolleyes:

Maybe, we will move. The blonde has dual US/Ireland citizenship. So when it gets bad enough in this shithole...and we aren't quite there yet...we will possibly utilize it. Thinking Dublin (she has 40 or 50 first cousins in Ireland) Copenhagen, or Amsterdam, or perhaps even Malmo, Sweden...I have a half-brother there.

Meantime...we are all aware that there are more dangerous places to live than US cities like Detroit, Birmingham, Baltimore or Gary. Third world countries with cities like Juarez, Kabul, Port Moresby, and yes, San Salvador come immediately to mind. Maybe you and I could have a little chat about just how the interference by this country in the government of El Salvador was the cause of the problems that still exist in El Salvador.

But the discussion of comparative firearms homicide rates, has always been amongst first world countries...y'know countries like the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, the UK, France, Germany, Switzerland, and the Scandinavian countries to name a few. Democracies...not dictatorships.

It's the Trumpers like you who always want to compare apples with oranges...it's why you always end up sounding so fucking stupid.

Legislation like that passed in the UK in 1996 after the first, and only, mass school shooting there...the Dunblane massacre in Dunblane, Scotland. Within a year, the UK passed laws outlawing public ownership of all guns outside of long barreled non-automatic loading hunting rifles and shotguns. Of course, the firearms homicide rate in the UK was never anything like we have here, pete. But right now, 25 years since Dunblane, the firearms murder rate here has exploded to forty times the rate in the UK. Forty fucking times.

And in Sweden it's most interesting. No handguns, no assault weapons only hunting rifles. Hunting is very popular in Sweden and the Swede's have accepted the extreme requirements and regulations that must be met and adhered to in order to qualify to own a hunting rifle and keep your hunting rifle. It takes a long time, it's expensive, and you are required to re-file for your firearms license yearly and pay the stiff fee for the license. And what happens if you don't re-apply and pay the license fee? The cops come to your house and confiscate your guns. You fill out the paperwork and pay the fee and you get your guns back. If you don't re-file and pay within the prescribed period of time. the confiscation becomes permanent.

That sort of legislation, pete.

One last thing, pete. In 2020 for the first time, gunshot became the most common cause of death in American children. Death by fucking gunshot. More than vehicular accidents, more than drownings, more than illness or disease...GUNSHOT. Despicable and among first world nations of course...ONLY IN AMERICA.

If I'm such a simple man, it seems like you could keep track of what I post on this forum. I'm no where close to being a Trumper.

The comparative rates I mentioned came from the link YOU provided, I didn't realize the discussion had somehow been limited to first world countries only.

In fact it wasn't until now. Your significant other, "The Blonde", probably doesn't stand much of a chance talking back to you.

We don't need more legislative control in the country, IMHO. Relying on the authorities upstairs is what kept police sitting outside the school for an hour while some asshole went around shooting those children.

The people 'at the top' are not good people.

Since you've chosen to get so specific:
1. Raise purchase age to 21 (he was 18 as was the kid in Buffalo).
2. Red flag law (he showed self-destructive and violent signs like self-mutilation).
3. Forbid autoloading firearms and limit magazine capacity to 5 rounds (federal law already restricts magazine capacity to 3 rounds to hunt migratory game birds (ducks, geese, doves and they're harder to hit than humans)).
4. In keeping with strict conservative constitutional originalism, restrict unlimited firearms access to flintlocks only (I'm joking here, but conservatives always insist adamantly upon originalism).