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nailer 03-22-2016 02:35 PM

The Obama Doctrine
 
Worth reading. An excerpt:

It appeared as though Obama had drawn the conclusion that damage to American credibility in one region of the world would bleed into others, and that U.S. deterrent credibility was indeed at stake in Syria. Assad, it seemed, had succeeded in pushing the president to a place he never thought he would have to go. Obama generally believes that the Washington foreign-policy establishment, which he secretly disdains, makes a fetish of “credibility”—particularly the sort of credibility purchased with force. The preservation of credibility, he says, led to Vietnam. Within the White House, Obama would argue that “dropping bombs on someone to prove that you’re willing to drop bombs on someone is just about the worst reason to use force.”

American national-security credibility, as it is conventionally understood in the Pentagon, the State Department, and the cluster of think tanks headquartered within walking distance of the White House, is an intangible yet potent force—one that, when properly nurtured, keeps America’s friends feeling secure and keeps the international order stable.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ctrine/471525/

icenine 03-22-2016 02:51 PM

Sounds like Obama has read The Best And The Brightest. Vietnam IS the prime example of a war needlessly dragging on because of American fear of losing credibility...the so-called Peace With Honor strategy of Nixon.

MrPots 03-22-2016 03:09 PM

I guess my only comment, and one that, to me invalidates the entire article is how does this person know what Obama secretly feels about anything?

It's all speculation from there......

bobabode 03-22-2016 03:13 PM

Not that I expect many will agree but he's arguably the best POTUS in my six decades on this mudball hurtling through space. The next one will continue his legacy in her own way. ;)

MrPots 03-22-2016 03:15 PM

Obama? Yes, he's a rock star. That's why the republicans hate him. But then all they have is hate.....

finnbow 03-22-2016 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 307487)
I guess my only comment, and one that, to me invalidates the entire article is how does this person know what Obama secretly feels about anything?

It's all speculation from there......

Read the article. Obama gave this guy access for months and the resulting article is very in-depth and informative. A highly worthy, if long, read.

MrPots 03-22-2016 03:16 PM

OK.....

Dondilion 03-22-2016 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 307493)
Read the article. Obama gave this guy access for months and the resulting article is very in-depth and informative. A highly worthy, if long, read.

Obama seems now to be very comfortable with his world view. He has more self confidence which allows him to read and ignore the noise and BS coming from the media and some of the people around him.

bobabode 03-22-2016 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 307554)
Obama seems now to be very comfortable with his world view. He has more self confidence which allows him to read and ignore the noise and BS coming from the media and some of the people around him.

Another four years would seal the deal. ;)

merrylander 03-24-2016 01:07 PM

I don't have any children or grandchildren in the Services buut the way some of these chicken hawks would cheerfully send other people's loved ones into harms way astounds me. Although written for a different problem, Elizabeth Barrett Browning's The Children has words that seem applicable.


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