Suicide Bomber Auction In Syria

[djv8ga]

I wasn't really sure where to put this, but since it's an Islamic thing, I put it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FqSWvGMqjw

[d-ray657]

The guy's a real modern day Abraham.

Can any of you parents imagine doing that?

Regards,

D-Ray

[Big_Bill]

Only Abraham did not auction off his son, he was commanded to offer his son.

This father is just a merchant, selling off his children to the highest bidder. I wonder if he will be selling off his daughters next ?

And we worry about collateral damage ? We should fight enemies by their standards and rules, not by rules written by civilized nations. Give them all their 72 virgins, and a one way trip to whoever they believe in. Before they walk up behind us and and send us to our God.

400,000 dollars U.S. for your son, that you are sending off to be a suicide murderer.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Only Abraham did not auction off his son, he was commanded to offer his son.

This father is just a merchant, selling off his children to the highest bidder. I wonder if he will be selling off his daughters next ?

And we worry about collateral damage ? We should fight enemies by their standards and rules, not by rules written by civilized nations. Give them all their 72 virgins, and a one way trip to whoever they believe in. Before they walk up behind us and and send us to our God.

400,000 dollars U.S. for your son, that you are sending off to be a suicide murderer.

I did not mean the Abraham reference to be a favorable comparison (but I do appreciate your biblical scholarship). I understand your perspective about the opponent's tactics, given as one who has been there. Nevertheless, the idealist in me does not want to see us operating without standards, even in war.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I did not mean the Abraham reference to be a favorable comparison (but I do appreciate your biblical scholarship). I understand your perspective about the opponent's tactics, given as one who has been there. Nevertheless, the idealist in me does not want to see us operating without standards, even in war.

Regards,

D-Ray

"STANDARDS" ??? Then I'm afraid that we will need to send Lawyers off to war to interpret or define these standards.

Since war is always fluid and changing, and very often chaotic, we will need to have lawyers to fight our wars with standards. I hope for their sakes that our enemies send lawyers also, or we will loose these wars very quickly. As I fear there lawyers may have standards, but not morality or honor.

[d-ray657]

I am talking about standards like operating in a manner that will minimize civilian casualties. That is a policy that is set at the civilian level, and then turned over the the military professionals to implement. You're not suggesting that the commanders and strategists should make all decisions without regard to the risk of harming or killing civilians? I understand that those who engage in suicide bombings do so with the intent to maximize rather than minimize civilian casualties. I would rather that we stay at the opposite end of that spectrum.

Other standards would include prohibiting torture and humane treatment of prisoners of war. Do you suggest abandoning those as well.

Regards,

D-Ray

[djv8ga]

I was just thinking how funny it is to read these posts about "standards" when the thread is about suicide bombers.
War sure has changed and not for the better if that makes any sense(?).

[BlueStreak]

Ahhh, yes. Religion. What can I say?

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

I was just thinking how funny it is to read these posts about "standards" when the thread is about suicide bombers.
War sure has changed and not for the better if that makes any sense(?).

I guess my point is that I don't want to be from a society that would sink to the level of a society that auctions off it's sons to commit suicide/murder. I don't want us to be what they are.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I guess my point is that I don't want to be from a society that would sink to the level of a society that auctions off it's sons to commit suicide/murder. I don't want us to be what they are.

Regards,

D-Ray

Since you mention it Dray,

We draw lots to determine whose son goes to war, and their fathers and/ or families get nothing ?

The people that we are dealing with in the sandbox, laugh at or weakness. Humanity, civilized behavior, rules , these are things for the weak.

Some have laughed at me here, but you must be what you must be, to survive. Nothing more, nothing less.